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JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:34 PM Oct 2015

Increases in costs approved at Mansfield, Shippensburg, Clarion & California State Universities

http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/pennsylvania/mc-pa-state-schools-flexible-pricing-20151009-story.html

Many of the state-owned universities have already enacted major cost increases for students under the guise of "price flexibility." At several PA. state-owned universities a student taking a regular full time course load of 15 credits will soon be charged 25% more than they were 2 years ago. That is because those universities are using a trick to base their published tuition rate on a maximum of only 12 credits per semester (which would require 5 years to graduate instead of 4).

Now 4 more state owned universities have been approved for "price flexibility" as described in the article. The Wolf Administration opposed the increases, but they were outnumbered by leftover Corbett appointees.

The system is upset that tuition increases have resulted in decreased enrollments, which has resulted in lower revenues. The answer is more cost increases.
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Increases in costs approved at Mansfield, Shippensburg, Clarion & California State Universities (Original Post) JPZenger Oct 2015 OP
Great.... haikugal Oct 2015 #1
this is not THE California State Universty... mike_c Oct 2015 #2
It became confusing when states renamed state teachers' colleges as "universities". Divernan Oct 2015 #4
I'm on the faculty at Humboldt State... mike_c Oct 2015 #5
Hope you are full time; criminal how adjunct professors are ripped off. Divernan Oct 2015 #6
wow, that sounds like a great experience.... mike_c Oct 2015 #7
East Stroudsburg forgot to mention $1,500 in fees per student in their ads JPZenger Oct 2015 #3
Many Pa. public universities charging 25% more to take 15 credits per semester JPZenger Oct 2015 #8

mike_c

(36,269 posts)
2. this is not THE California State Universty...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:46 PM
Oct 2015

...i.e. not the one in California that is the largest university in the nation. I had no idea that there was a California State University in Pennsylvania! Anyway, the CSU in California has not raised tuition this year to the best of my knowledge.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
4. It became confusing when states renamed state teachers' colleges as "universities".
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

California has two series of campuses. The more distinguished one is the University of California system.
Those campuses are known as the University of California (no "state" in the title). The various campuses are then referred to as University of California, Los Angeles (i.e., UCLA); University of California, Berkeley; University of California, San Diego, etc.
Nine UC campuses offer undergraduate and graduate education; one (UCSF) is graduate/professional only.

UC Berkeley; UC Davis; UC Irvine; UCLA; UC Merced;UC Riverside;UC San Diego;UC San Francisco; UC Santa Barbara & UC Santa Cruz.
http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/uc-system/parts-of-uc
(I took a post-doc law course at UC Berkeley some 15 years ago.)
http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/

Back in the 60's, I took some undergrad classes at the Sacramento campus of California's OTHER series of college/campuses. My transcript reads - Sacramento State College. That school is now known as California State University, Sacramento.

California also has a second series of 23 campuses for what used to be called the California State College System. They started as state teacher colleges, and offered degrees in various specialties of education. All states had what they called state teacher colleges, to provide teachers for primary and secondary schools and also administrators of public school systems. However, these schools wanted the prestige of being called "university", and as long as they offered Ph.D. programs, many "upgraded" their title to include "university".
Here's a list of California's STATE "universities"

California State University, Bakersfield
California State University Channel Islands
California State University, Chico
California State University, Dominguez Hills
California State University, East Bay
California State University, Fresno
California State University, Fullerton
Humboldt State University
California State University, Long Beach
California State University, Los Angeles
California State University Maritime Academy
California State University, Monterey Bay
California State University, Northridge
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
California State University, Sacramento
California State University, San Bernardino
San Diego State University
San Francisco State University
San José State University
California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
California State University San Marcos
Sonoma State University
California State University, Stanislaus

http://calstate.edu/

Pennsylvania similarly had a group of state teachers colleges dating back to the late 19th century:
PENNSYLVANIA STATE TEACHERS COLLEGES
Bloomsburg State Teachers College
California State Teachers College
Cheyney State Teachers College
Clarion State Teachers College
East Stroudsburg State Teachers College
Edinboro State Teachers College
Indiana State Teachers College
Kutztown State Teachers College
Lock Haven State Teachers College
Mansfield State Teachers College
Millersville State Teachers College
Shippensburg State Teachers College
Slippery Rock State Teachers College
West Chester State Teachers College


They have all changed their titles to include "university"
Indiana State Teachers College became Indiana University of Pennsylvania
California State Teachers College became California University of Pennsylvania, etc.

Many people would think a resume or curriculum vita reading "California State University" was from a university in the state of California, not PA.

Too much information, right? I do wonder, though, how long the state will continue to support so many campuses. They all came into existence long before there were 2 year community colleges, or larger schools like Penn State and Pitt developed secondary campuses, let alone the advent of on-line schools.


mike_c

(36,269 posts)
5. I'm on the faculty at Humboldt State...
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:04 PM
Oct 2015

...and was previously in the biology dept at Lebanon Valley College in Annville, PA.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
6. Hope you are full time; criminal how adjunct professors are ripped off.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:16 PM
Oct 2015

Well duh! I didn't tell you anything new - didn't realize you were in California. I have one (adult) kid in Oakland and the other is based in Seattle, although he's spent the arctic summer in the Aleutian Islands (Dutch Harbor, Unalaska - or "Dutch" as the cognoscenti call it!) and just got back from a secondary field trip to the Pribilof (Northern Fur Seal) Islands. His photos have been just beyond breathtaking. If you ever get a chance to go to that part of the world, take it. A great way (and good value) to see Alaska is to utilize the Alaska State Ferry System. And as far as the remote Pribilof Islands, check out Bering Sea Days, where visiting scientists participate in a week long program with the K through 12 kids in the tiny local school district on the very edge of the last frontier. A lot of great field work with the local wildlife. Check it out here: http://seabirdyouth.org/bering-sea-days/

mike_c

(36,269 posts)
7. wow, that sounds like a great experience....
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:56 PM
Oct 2015

Yep, I'm full time and tenured. Getting close to retirement, actually. I'm also a union activist in the California Faculty Assn-- I totally agree with you about the plight of adjunct faculty nationwide and in the CSU in particular. Our lecturers have some of the best contract protections of any in the country, but the underlying model for employing them is deeply flawed.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
3. East Stroudsburg forgot to mention $1,500 in fees per student in their ads
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 07:04 PM
Oct 2015

East Stroudsburg sent out tens of thousands of advertisements for the university in regional newspapers. There is only one problem - in the description of tuition, room and board costs, they "forgot" to mention $1,500 of mandatory fees that they charge each undergrad student.

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