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The Problem With Big Crowds.. (Original Post) Cha Oct 2015 OP
Well said, I like the fact Hillary did the meetings so as to know what the Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #1
Hillary has been brilliant, Thinkingabout. Acually, really listening to People.. makes all the Cha Oct 2015 #3
Yes, she is the peoples candidate. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #62
Agreed! n/t Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #2
Aloha and Mahalo, Tarheel! Cha Oct 2015 #5
Listening everyday with people, one on one. Iliyah Oct 2015 #4
Well said, Iliyah.. Mahalo! She wants to hear what they have to say and she's doing a brilliant Cha Oct 2015 #11
Go Hillary, but this is 2015. I cannot predict this race. rusty quoin Oct 2015 #6
We're here to support Hillary, rusty. Not really interested in BS. thanks. Cha Oct 2015 #7
You are kidding..right? Because I support both of them. rusty quoin Oct 2015 #8
I am not kidding and good for you. But, this is Hillary's Group as I mentioned. Cha Oct 2015 #9
I like her rusty quoin Oct 2015 #10
Mahalo! Cha Oct 2015 #12
Well, if you REALLY "like her" you wouldn't post snarky links to this thread with HOLY COW subject MADem Oct 2015 #14
Thanks MADem.. Good Grief! Cha Oct 2015 #15
Holy cow again rusty quoin Oct 2015 #19
You go talking behind our backs that Hillary supporters are "partisan" is kind of silly.. when Cha Oct 2015 #22
You were complaining about the partisan nature of a group whose statement of purpose is support of still_one Oct 2015 #25
thanks for explaining that to rusty, still_one. Geeze! I told her a couple of times it was Hill's Cha Oct 2015 #27
I just saw your multiple explanations, and you are right, I still am not sure if he understands. still_one Oct 2015 #33
Yes, I heard it was locked.. thanks, still_one. Be like me going into a BS group and coming out Cha Oct 2015 #36
Now he's over in GDP, rambling on about how he didn't do anything wrong. MADem Oct 2015 #45
Right! He "didn't do anything wrong".. "it's all normal" He just disrupted and then he got a Cha Oct 2015 #47
Yeah, that one is locked, too. All this time on DU an doesn't know meta is a no-no. Cha Oct 2015 #53
He's another two pieces of wood three nails guy rpannier Oct 2015 #54
That poster has been a DUer for over ten years. He should know by now. MADem Oct 2015 #51
What you did was try to engineer the disruption of a safe haven group for your own sick amusement. MADem Oct 2015 #32
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #66
Well rusty.. I'm disappointed.. you come in here and say you "like her" .. and then go talking about Cha Oct 2015 #18
exactly Cha still_one Oct 2015 #26
Not my intent to troll or be disruptive... Ned Flanders Oct 2015 #38
I'm a host of Hillary's Group and this is a safe haven where disruptors are not allowed. Cha Oct 2015 #44
The meeting place for discussion--which, nowadays, is mostly shitflinging fests--is GD-P. MADem Oct 2015 #52
Sure you have. We've all seen this before. onehandle Oct 2015 #17
LOL SunSeeker Oct 2015 #21
Ralph Nader Yakking at the crowds.. "tweedledum and tweedledee" .. Cha Oct 2015 #23
That poster was looking to stir up trouble. MADem Oct 2015 #28
uhhh, yeah...... alittlelark Oct 2015 #13
Do you have a question, lark? Cha Oct 2015 #20
sooooo many........ alittlelark Oct 2015 #37
Well, what is it? Something about the OP? Cha Oct 2015 #39
Were you funnelled here by a disruptive post in GD? MADem Oct 2015 #29
Just stumbled upon it...... alittlelark Oct 2015 #40
Well, you can find the door, I'm sure. nt MADem Oct 2015 #42
We have excellent senses of humor.. that's for sure. That's a great thing about Hillary Cha Oct 2015 #46
Just so you are aware this is a safe haven and we would appreciate if you respected that. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #67
GEEZ HRC threads are constantly being bombarded. Iliyah Oct 2015 #16
They bombard once and then they're gone. Cha Oct 2015 #24
good still_one Oct 2015 #30
This thread will draw a lot of 'em, until a certain little disruptor's "Guiding Light" post is MADem Oct 2015 #31
Yea, just like the poster hereinbelow which can't Iliyah Oct 2015 #43
The problem with small fundraisers ... mhatrw Oct 2015 #34
Hillary speaks to small groups of people all over the country. She's quite Brillant and will be Cha Oct 2015 #35
Bzzzz. Wrong. Those meetings aren't fundraisers. MADem Oct 2015 #41
LOLOLOL! You're killin' me, MADem! ROFL! Cha Oct 2015 #48
This is the HRC safe haven. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #68
Cha-I pounched it from somewhere else...but great poster riversedge Oct 2015 #49
Yes, I know.. but I saw it and liked it.. thank you! Cha Oct 2015 #50
HAHA! I see someone couldn't handle the truth and copycatted but totally missed Cha Oct 2015 #55
. LiberalElite Oct 2015 #56
Actually, it's your post that's "pathetic".. the OP is spot freaking on. I Love it! Cha Oct 2015 #59
K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #57
Thanks for this stonecutter! Cha Oct 2015 #65
Nice, cha. brer cat Oct 2015 #58
So true, brer cat.. some people like the sound of their own voice too much. Cha Oct 2015 #64
Great meme Gothmog Oct 2015 #60
It's so true.. Hillary's been do so well on her "listening tour" like she did in NY for her Cha Oct 2015 #73
Actually crowds can be deafening. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #61
Big crowds certainly don't translate into winning for every candidate, T. President Obama is an Cha Oct 2015 #76
K&R mcar Oct 2015 #63
K&R! nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #69
Yes, there will be plenty of time for big rallies later on. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #70
Huge Rallies in our future for Hillary! Right now she's wisely listening to the People instead of Cha Oct 2015 #74
Most of her adult Life Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #79
Wrong, Marty.. Hillary's been listening to People for a long time now and it shows brilliantly. Cha Oct 2015 #80
... William769 Oct 2015 #81
Great thread Gothmog Oct 2015 #71
K&R! Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #72
K&R! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #75
Mahalo Justin! Cha Oct 2015 #82
k&r Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #77
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #78
Big crowds are easy to manipulate. moobu2 Oct 2015 #83

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Well said, I like the fact Hillary did the meetings so as to know what the
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:15 AM
Oct 2015

public is thinking, she listened and then has geared her campaign with those facts.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
3. Hillary has been brilliant, Thinkingabout. Acually, really listening to People.. makes all the
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:31 AM
Oct 2015

difference.

Viva La Difference!

Cha

(297,029 posts)
11. Well said, Iliyah.. Mahalo! She wants to hear what they have to say and she's doing a brilliant
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:10 AM
Oct 2015

job!

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
6. Go Hillary, but this is 2015. I cannot predict this race.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:46 AM
Oct 2015

I think this is something new with Bernie. I have never seen something like this before. I will vote for the Democratic nominee.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
7. We're here to support Hillary, rusty. Not really interested in BS. thanks.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:48 AM
Oct 2015

This is Hillary's Group.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
8. You are kidding..right? Because I support both of them.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:53 AM
Oct 2015

I am not against anyone who is a Democrat.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. Well, if you REALLY "like her" you wouldn't post snarky links to this thread with HOLY COW subject
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:26 AM
Oct 2015

lines.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027221653

rusty quoin (2,223 posts)

Holy Cow. I never thought that partisan could go so partisan

Within the actual Democratic Party on democratic underground.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=19978

You are kidding me ..right?


With friends like you who needs enemies? That was a cheap shot. Shame on you.


Basically, what you are doing is disruptive--driving people to a closed group, where some, not realizing where they are, will shit-stir and post insults, get banned, and then get all huffy about it.

Also, you posted your little shit stirring post in GD, not GD-P, where it belongs.

I am going to recommend to the hosts that you be blocked from this group--you don't know how to behave.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
22. You go talking behind our backs that Hillary supporters are "partisan" is kind of silly.. when
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:42 AM
Oct 2015

every other supporter on this board is "partisan".

There's nothing "normal" about what you just did.

still_one

(92,114 posts)
25. You were complaining about the partisan nature of a group whose statement of purpose is support of
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:47 AM
Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton. You are calling out a special group as partisan, and supplying a link to that special group. You don't post a link to a special group, then imply that there is something wrong with them being partisan. Special groups are protected areas from that kind of snark.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
27. thanks for explaining that to rusty, still_one. Geeze! I told her a couple of times it was Hill's
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:51 AM
Oct 2015

Group. didn't seem to penetrate.

still_one

(92,114 posts)
33. I just saw your multiple explanations, and you are right, I still am not sure if he understands.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:00 AM
Oct 2015

I was asked to be on the jury the thread that was criticizing the group, and before I could
vote to hide it, one of the Admins correctly locked the thread.

The point, one way or another, has definitely been made

Thanks

Cha

(297,029 posts)
36. Yes, I heard it was locked.. thanks, still_one. Be like me going into a BS group and coming out
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:09 AM
Oct 2015

and saying.. "holy cow.. they're so partisan in there.. What's up with that?!!!!"

MADem

(135,425 posts)
45. Now he's over in GDP, rambling on about how he didn't do anything wrong.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:27 AM
Oct 2015

They really need to start making people read the TOS and check a block, or something. He doesn't have a clue as to the basics of how this site works.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
47. Right! He "didn't do anything wrong".. "it's all normal" He just disrupted and then he got a
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:32 AM
Oct 2015

thread Locked in GD because he's ALWAYS RIGHT and EVERYONE ELSE is WRONG. LMAO!

What a riot! It's all about him! mememememememmemememememe. lol

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
54. He's another two pieces of wood three nails guy
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 05:00 AM
Oct 2015

He needs his cross

Sadly, DU doesn't have a martyr icon
The site really should get one

MADem

(135,425 posts)
51. That poster has been a DUer for over ten years. He should know by now.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:12 AM
Oct 2015

He's been through DU2 and DU3.

No reason for acting like that.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. What you did was try to engineer the disruption of a safe haven group for your own sick amusement.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:00 AM
Oct 2015

You posted a thread in GD to funnel people here, so that they might comment, perhaps not realizing they were in a safe haven.

If I were an admin, I'd PPR you. That's some low conduct. Hopefully you've already been banned from here, but maybe you'd better just understand that this isn't the way to behave. I'll never trust you again.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
18. Well rusty.. I'm disappointed.. you come in here and say you "like her" .. and then go talking about
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:34 AM
Oct 2015

Hillary supporters elsewhere because we're "partisan".

Just like nobody is "partisan" Except Hill supporters. ROFL

Bye.

 

Ned Flanders

(233 posts)
38. Not my intent to troll or be disruptive...
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:14 AM
Oct 2015

so please be gentle with me.

But this whole, "only post positive things about HRC" in this group (or about Bernie Sanders in his group) thing smacks of those studies revealing how people tend to research and read about subjects with which they already agree. Resulting in them missing new information and perhaps adjusting their opinions accordingly.

But I get it, we have rules to follow and all, I guess?

Cha

(297,029 posts)
44. I'm a host of Hillary's Group and this is a safe haven where disruptors are not allowed.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:25 AM
Oct 2015

They have the whole rest of the board for that.

There's no "new information" to be missed here. Thank you for respecting our Group.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. The meeting place for discussion--which, nowadays, is mostly shitflinging fests--is GD-P.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:17 AM
Oct 2015

It's a rather contentious place.


The safe havens are where you go to put your feet up and talk nice with people who are on your wavelength.

As it is, this is a website where a majority of the people skew outside the party norm, so as a consequence, if you're solidly in the middle of the Democratic Party in terms of your approach to politics, you're regarded by some as a "right winger" here.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
17. Sure you have. We've all seen this before.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:32 AM
Oct 2015

Look familiar?

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It's one of many 'super-rallies' from 2000.

For Ralph Nader.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. Were you funnelled here by a disruptive post in GD?
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:53 AM
Oct 2015

See how some DUers aren't really your friends? Sending you to a closed group for Clinton supporters, when you're a Sanders fan?

Not very nice, that kind of thing, is it?

Cha

(297,029 posts)
46. We have excellent senses of humor.. that's for sure. That's a great thing about Hillary
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:28 AM
Oct 2015

and her supporters.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
16. GEEZ HRC threads are constantly being bombarded.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:32 AM
Oct 2015

Safe havens don't mean a damn thing to certain supporters of another candidate.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. This thread will draw a lot of 'em, until a certain little disruptor's "Guiding Light" post is
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:56 AM
Oct 2015

locked, anyway.

It is a cheap and disruptive tactic to come in here playing the "OH I like Hillary" card, and then posting a thread in another forum sending people here with a link to complain about the post.

Talk about a sleaze move. But that is what a recently blocked poster in this thread did.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
43. Yea, just like the poster hereinbelow which can't
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:25 AM
Oct 2015

phantom that many middle class Americans support HRC and do and have met with her across America to discuss issues that are important to them.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
35. Hillary speaks to small groups of people all over the country. She's quite Brillant and will be
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:05 AM
Oct 2015

next President of the United States of America.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
41. Bzzzz. Wrong. Those meetings aren't fundraisers.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:22 AM
Oct 2015

They're free, and all you have to do is RSVP and get there early to be sure you'll get in. You can ask questions, too. It's a very different vibe.

Welcome to the Hillary Clinton group. Did someone named Rusty shunt you over here?

Cha

(297,029 posts)
48. LOLOLOL! You're killin' me, MADem! ROFL!
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:36 AM
Oct 2015


BS supporters really do need to brush up on what's gong on.. not just knee jerk "1%" ad nauseam.

riversedge

(70,180 posts)
49. Cha-I pounched it from somewhere else...but great poster
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:00 AM
Oct 2015

Caused a bit of a stir in this thread I see. tehe

Cha

(297,029 posts)
55. HAHA! I see someone couldn't handle the truth and copycatted but totally missed
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 05:31 AM
Oct 2015

the mark.

Whoosh!

Cha

(297,029 posts)
73. It's so true.. Hillary's been do so well on her "listening tour" like she did in NY for her
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 05:52 PM
Oct 2015

successful Senate run.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
76. Big crowds certainly don't translate into winning for every candidate, T. President Obama is an
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:35 PM
Oct 2015

exception.

But, sanders is out there trying to tear him down. Like that's going to happen.

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
70. Yes, there will be plenty of time for big rallies later on.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:54 PM
Oct 2015

It is early in the primary. She should be talking with people, not talking at them. This "listening tour" process is how she ran her successful Senate campaign.

This is how you find out what is important to people across the country, instead of preaching to them what they should think is important. That is how she found out that so many people desperately want help with drug addiction treatment for their family members.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
74. Huge Rallies in our future for Hillary! Right now she's wisely listening to the People instead of
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:42 PM
Oct 2015

the sound of her own voice.

Well said, SunSeeker.. Mahalo!

"This is how you find out what is important to people across the country, instead of preaching to them what they should think is important. That is how she found out that so many people desperately want help with drug addiction treatment for their family members."


Response to Cha (Original post)

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
83. Big crowds are easy to manipulate.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:10 AM
Oct 2015

It's a well studied psychological phenomenon.

Crowd Manipulation on Wikipedia

Crowd manipulation is the intentional use of techniques based on the principles of crowd psychology to engage, control, or influence the desires of a crowd in order to direct its behavior toward a specific action.[1] This practice is common to politics and business and can facilitate the approval or disapproval or indifference to a person, policy, or product. The ethicality of crowd manipulation is commonly questioned.
Crowd manipulation differs from propaganda although they may reinforce one another to produce a desired result. If propaganda is "the consistent, enduring effort to create or shape events to influence the relations of the public to an enterprise, idea or group",[2] crowd manipulation is the relatively brief call to action once the seeds of propaganda (i.e. more specifically "pre-propaganda"[3]) are sown and the public is organized into a crowd. The propagandist appeals to the masses, even if compartmentalized, whereas the crowd manipulator appeals to a segment of the masses assembled into a crowd in real time. In situations such as a national emergency, however, a crowd manipulator may leverage mass media to address the masses in real time as if speaking to a crowd.[4]

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