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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:01 PM Mar 2016

Michigan: AP calls it for Bernie but still lots of Detroit & Flint votes out(edit)

Last edited Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:36 AM - Edit history (14)

Current vote count gives Bernie a small edge...

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/michigan

Detroit still has 161 precincts out and Flint 85. Bernie's big vote areas Ann Arbor has 40 precincts out and Grand Rapids 31.

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Michigan: AP calls it for Bernie but still lots of Detroit & Flint votes out(edit) (Original Post) book_worm Mar 2016 OP
Didnt some of their polls just close? Lucinda Mar 2016 #1
They are all closed now. LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #2
Well, aren't there four counties in central time, that just closed two minutes ago? nt MADem Mar 2016 #3
Only 1% reported in Wayne. Nailzberg Mar 2016 #4
Wayne's got about 200 precincts counted, and Hillary is ahead jmowreader Mar 2016 #16
first votes out of Flint and HRC is up 65-35 book_worm Mar 2016 #5
a few comment s.... where are you getting your infor from?? riversedge Mar 2016 #7
The link I have in the OP book_worm Mar 2016 #8
Here's a link Kaleva Mar 2016 #9
thanks. riversedge Mar 2016 #11
On the map you have to click on the state then Rose Siding Mar 2016 #10
I just discovered that but thnks. riversedge Mar 2016 #12
I'm actually encouraged that it's "too early to call" book_worm Mar 2016 #6
96/999 in Wayne County Bernie up by about 8 points book_worm Mar 2016 #13
Now 190/999 in Wayne and HRC up by 6 book_worm Mar 2016 #14
Still lots of precincts out in Macomb (46/337), Genesee (Flint) 14/219 & Wayne (Detroit) 194/999 book_worm Mar 2016 #15
I know there's still lots of votes in Flint and Detroit book_worm Mar 2016 #17
There are still a lot of precincts out in Ann Arbor, too book_worm Mar 2016 #18
Upate fro FiveThirtyEight re: Wayne Cty 8:33 central time Lisa0825 Mar 2016 #19
That's good news. book_worm Mar 2016 #20
I recognize you! cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #111
Yes, I know you! <3 Lisa0825 Mar 2016 #113
225/999 precincts in Wayne (Detroit) HRC up by 3.3% book_worm Mar 2016 #21
Now 285/999 and HRC up by 53-47 in Wayne/Detroit. book_worm Mar 2016 #22
40% of votes in and Bernie so far up by about 5 book_worm Mar 2016 #23
now Too Close to call per msnbc riversedge Mar 2016 #24
Per NBC Michigan is now "Too Close to Call" book_worm Mar 2016 #25
Genesee (Flint) 42/219 HRC up 53-45 book_worm Mar 2016 #26
oh my riversedge Mar 2016 #29
So far the Michigan polls were pretty far off. book_worm Mar 2016 #27
51% in hill still behind about 5pt riversedge Mar 2016 #28
Per CBS book_worm Mar 2016 #30
On the plus side there are still 668 precincts out in Wayne/Detroit. book_worm Mar 2016 #31
57/219 precincts in Genesee/Flint and HRC up by only 50-48 book_worm Mar 2016 #32
She's up 60-38 in Wayne County now Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #33
Good news, hope it keeps growing. book_worm Mar 2016 #35
HRC gaining, down by only 2 statewide with a 60-38 lead in Wayne/Detroit book_worm Mar 2016 #34
It's now 49.8% (BS) 48.3% (Clinton) Light63 Mar 2016 #36
456/999 precincts in Wayne/Detroit HRC up 61-38, Sanders lead cut to 1.5% book_worm Mar 2016 #37
Arrrgh! ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueIdaho Mar 2016 #38
Yep, kind of like Massachusetts last week book_worm Mar 2016 #41
Good news--still lots of Detroit and Flint to report in--bad news also lots of Ann Arbor & book_worm Mar 2016 #40
Wayne/Detroit has tightened a bit again 59-39 for HRC book_worm Mar 2016 #42
Steve K on msnbc.. Wayne Cty (says might expand a bit for Hillary but says not sure where the votes riversedge Mar 2016 #43
saying AnnArbor prob. get more for Bernie (mentioned another college town also for Bernie riversedge Mar 2016 #44
Saginaw County 69/86 prec. HRC up 51-47 book_worm Mar 2016 #45
58% votes counted Bernie up by 3 points. book_worm Mar 2016 #46
It doesn't look good now! Light63 Mar 2016 #47
2/3 of women under 45 voted for Bernie book_worm Mar 2016 #48
Exit poll: HRC only won women 52-46 in Michigan. book_worm Mar 2016 #50
Since this is an open primary asuhornets Mar 2016 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueIdaho Mar 2016 #51
It's gotta be independents vdogg Mar 2016 #52
yep asuhornets Mar 2016 #53
Exit polls showing women didn't vote for her book_worm Mar 2016 #54
Flint, so far very disappointing, Sanders up 50-48 book_worm Mar 2016 #57
They say three counties to watch book_worm Mar 2016 #63
Just don't understand it? Light63 Mar 2016 #61
Yep and it's tragically ironic on International Women's Day zixiofix Mar 2016 #112
Yup. If Bernie is able to pull this out, it is because there was a large under-polled swell of RBInMaine Mar 2016 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueIdaho Mar 2016 #55
Yeah. bravenak Mar 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueIdaho Mar 2016 #62
INDEED. bravenak Mar 2016 #67
ah crap ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #58
Me too bravenak Mar 2016 #64
Yeah, the army of millions still not to be found ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #72
.. Cha Mar 2016 #80
. bravenak Mar 2016 #81
It's unanimous. Cha Mar 2016 #83
I don't think we pull this out MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #60
Nope ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #65
It's under-polled indies and students that account for this. RBInMaine Mar 2016 #66
I agree. Delegate wise we came out of tonight ok, morale wise--not so good book_worm Mar 2016 #68
Per Chuck Todd may be until we get 90% of vote count before MI can be called-- book_worm Mar 2016 #69
At one time-- I would have been in the "other" group ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #70
well. welcome to this group riversedge Mar 2016 #74
Nail-biter! Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #71
Wayne (Detroit) 615/999 out HRC 57-41 book_worm Mar 2016 #73
Genesee/Flint 99/219 precincts 50-48 Bernie. book_worm Mar 2016 #75
Oakland County (Detroit suburb) 520/520 precincts reporting 51-47 HRC book_worm Mar 2016 #77
I'm just waiting for them to call MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #76
Nobody wants to make this call wrong. CincyDem Mar 2016 #78
OMG!!!! Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #79
Genesee County (Flint) now back in the Clinton side book_worm Mar 2016 #82
I cannot leave my house because I'm stuck reloading this thread bravenak Mar 2016 #85
Right? ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #87
I like the quick ones better bravenak Mar 2016 #89
That's just what they do ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #92
Thats why i try not to get jazzed by polls anymore bravenak Mar 2016 #95
Yeah, he doesn't have any blow outs coming up anyway ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #100
We need to both kick it at hcs bravenak Mar 2016 #110
Chuck Todd MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #84
Better than 4 I guess ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #86
Anybody else notice Brian Williams has overstated the % counted by 10 every time tonight? LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #88
He is known for exaggeration bravenak Mar 2016 #90
They have different counts MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #96
More votes from Detroit and HRC has cut Bernie's lead down to 2. book_worm Mar 2016 #91
Good ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #93
Wayne/Detroit 829/999 precincts reporting and HRC up by 44,000 book_worm Mar 2016 #94
Genesee (Flint) still has 85 precincts out and HRC currently leading narrowly. book_worm Mar 2016 #97
Bernie now up by 3 more votes came in from Ann Arbor & Grand Rapids book_worm Mar 2016 #98
Just saw that ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #99
I just switched to cnn. I do not like van jones. --and axeloid --both lean riversedge Mar 2016 #102
more HRC precincts out.... book_worm Mar 2016 #101
AP just called it for Sanders ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #103
AP calls it for Bernie. book_worm Mar 2016 #104
Looks like Bernie won it. Kaleva Mar 2016 #105
Well crap. ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #106
HRC now has a 50,000 vote lead out of Detroit. book_worm Mar 2016 #107
Not totally unexpected. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #108
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueIdaho Mar 2016 #109

jmowreader

(50,533 posts)
16. Wayne's got about 200 precincts counted, and Hillary is ahead
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:37 PM
Mar 2016

Ann Arbor's 800 votes to Bernie's good with one precinct reporting, Flint is SOLIDLY in Hillary's camp, and Grand Rapids still isn't reporting. The UP looks to be Bernie country, but it also looks pretty sparsely populated.

riversedge

(70,094 posts)
7. a few comment s.... where are you getting your infor from??
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:14 PM
Mar 2016




http://www.nytimes.com/live/primary-elections-march-8/

Nate Cohn
9:12 pm ET
Invalid Date

But it certainly doesn't look like the 15-plus point lead from the pre-election polls.
Nate Cohn
9:11 pm ET
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He's built a modest 4 point lead with about 20 percent of precincts counted. He's doing very well in white, rural areas. There isn't much vote yet from Detroit or other urban centers yet, so it's not hard to imagine a Clinton comeback.
Nate Cohn
9:10 pm ET
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Well, I don't think there's going to be a contested convention on the Democratic side, but there is a chance that an upset is brewing for Bernie Sanders in Michigan.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
10. On the map you have to click on the state then
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016

scroll over the counties. The numbers are written/changed there as they come in

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
6. I'm actually encouraged that it's "too early to call"
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:13 PM
Mar 2016

rather than too close. Given that much of Detroit and Flint are still out.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
13. 96/999 in Wayne County Bernie up by about 8 points
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016

But lots of Counties in Wayne which is Detroit, but HRC is really going to have to start getting some big margins out of there.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
17. I know there's still lots of votes in Flint and Detroit
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:38 PM
Mar 2016

but Bernie so far is doing better than expected even there.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
19. Upate fro FiveThirtyEight re: Wayne Cty 8:33 central time
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:41 PM
Mar 2016

"I’m looking on the Wayne County clerk’s website to try to get an idea of where the vote is being reported from in Wayne County. It seems, at least as of earlier this hour, that Detroit was at 0 percent. The nearly uniformly white areas of Grosse Pointe Shores and Plymouth were at 100 percent. In other words, the percentages coming out of Wayne County right now don’t really reflect how black areas are voting."

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
111. I recognize you!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:50 AM
Mar 2016

Didn't know you were on here. I usually don't post in this forum because I'm a Bernie supporter but just happened to click on a latest thread and saw your picture. You probably know me from my username on here.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
113. Yes, I know you! <3
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:23 AM
Mar 2016

Hope you are doing well!

I have not been on DU much in a long time. I just posted a few times here only recently.

I like Bernie a lot, but still leaning Hill. But I will vote for the nominee whoever it may be!

I just can't stand the main forums anymore... it has become so toxic!

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
25. Per NBC Michigan is now "Too Close to Call"
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:51 PM
Mar 2016

rather than "Too Early to Call" That might be good for HRC?

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
30. Per CBS
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:58 PM
Mar 2016

CBS News Politics ?@CBSPolitics 55s55 seconds ago
Still-tight Dem race in MI - Sanders up in many counties while Clinton with edge around Detroit

Response to book_worm (Original post)

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
40. Good news--still lots of Detroit and Flint to report in--bad news also lots of Ann Arbor &
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:11 PM
Mar 2016

Grand Rapids where Bernie is ahead.

riversedge

(70,094 posts)
43. Steve K on msnbc.. Wayne Cty (says might expand a bit for Hillary but says not sure where the votes
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:17 PM
Mar 2016

coming from. Detroit started to counting about 15 minutes ago.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
48. 2/3 of women under 45 voted for Bernie
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:27 PM
Mar 2016

In Dem #MIprimary, over 2/3 of women voters under 45 chose @BernieSanders: http://cbsn.ws/24zybjn

That is why it is so close and why he may win.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
50. Exit poll: HRC only won women 52-46 in Michigan.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:29 PM
Mar 2016

Among overall women voters in the Dem #MIprimary, votes were split nearly evenly: http://cbsn.ws/24zybjn

Response to asuhornets (Reply #49)

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
54. Exit polls showing women didn't vote for her
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:34 PM
Mar 2016

in big margins by only six-points over Sanders, plus Sanders took the young vote 81-19

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
63. They say three counties to watch
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:39 PM
Mar 2016

Wayne (Detroit)--Clinton up
Washtenaw (Ann Arbor)--Bernie up
Kent (Grand Rapids)--Bernie up

Light63

(233 posts)
61. Just don't understand it?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:39 PM
Mar 2016

Why women do not want to vote for a woman candidate, especially the first-time ever that our country would might have a woman POTUS!

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
56. Yup. If Bernie is able to pull this out, it is because there was a large under-polled swell of
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:35 PM
Mar 2016

of indies who showed up for Bernie on the day.

Response to book_worm (Original post)

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
59. Yeah.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:37 PM
Mar 2016

But that would mean they both win one but he only got 1 delegate in miss. If they split the delegates in mich, he falls farther behind.

Response to bravenak (Reply #59)

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
60. I don't think we pull this out
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:38 PM
Mar 2016

I don't see the votes there in the remaining precincts to offset the margin and gains Bernie will get in Ann Arbor and Grand Rapids.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
68. I agree. Delegate wise we came out of tonight ok, morale wise--not so good
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:42 PM
Mar 2016

the polls were very wrong or else our supporters just were so overconfident they didn't vote.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
69. Per Chuck Todd may be until we get 90% of vote count before MI can be called--
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:46 PM
Mar 2016

Chuck Todd ?@chucktodd 35m35 minutes ago
Michigan is going to be a nail biter. Outstanding vote favors Clinton, but will it be enough? May take until 90 percent counted to call it

CincyDem

(6,338 posts)
78. Nobody wants to make this call wrong.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:03 AM
Mar 2016


Too Close To Call is media speak for "I will NOT repeat Dewey Beats Truman".

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
89. I like the quick ones better
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

And I'm getting irritated by the mississippi win seeming to not count.

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
92. That's just what they do
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:21 AM
Mar 2016

What is concerning are the rest of the polls, that are favorable to Hillary since they screwed up so bad on this one. She'll still get the nomination but damn.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
95. Thats why i try not to get jazzed by polls anymore
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:25 AM
Mar 2016

It really has been hit or miss. They need to update their processes. She will hit the magic number regardless, but the polling is somthing I will ignore. I am GLAD he is ignoring states so we can get those delegates that he is not fighting for. We can split the rest, and win, EASY.

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
100. Yeah, he doesn't have any blow outs coming up anyway
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:34 AM
Mar 2016

But damn this is irritating. I just trashed GD-P--I don't post in it much anyway, so I'm not going to miss much. I really need to increase my time at KOs

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
110. We need to both kick it at hcs
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:44 AM
Mar 2016

We need to do more loungy stuff. And Stop stressin so much over every poll. Because there is nothing we can do about this phenomenon. Just ride it out. Most of his wins are small, and plenty of hers are big, so, I'm just gonna check the delegate totals and stop talking to folks about this over and done primary season.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
84. Chuck Todd
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:12 AM
Mar 2016

said the reason they haven't called it is because they have no idea what precincts the votes are coming from. They usually know, so they line up with exit polls and project.

But I think Bernie has this.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
88. Anybody else notice Brian Williams has overstated the % counted by 10 every time tonight?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:17 AM
Mar 2016

Whatever number shown on the screen (and on the NYT tracking site), Brian Williams always adds 10.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
96. They have different counts
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:25 AM
Mar 2016

on TV versus the NY Times. I have no idea why. Chuck Todd said they don't have precinct information, yet the NY times is reporting on precincts. I don't know where TV (not just NBC, but all TV) is getting their percentage from.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
98. Bernie now up by 3 more votes came in from Ann Arbor & Grand Rapids
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:30 AM
Mar 2016

where he leads. Still lots of votes out in Flint and Detroit.

riversedge

(70,094 posts)
102. I just switched to cnn. I do not like van jones. --and axeloid --both lean
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:35 AM
Mar 2016

toward Bernie.
Axy being nasty --talking of this crappy inauthentic again!! dam

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
101. more HRC precincts out....
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:34 AM
Mar 2016

Detroit still has 161 precincts out and Flint 85. Bernie's big vote areas Ann Arbor has 40 precincts out and Grand Rapids 31.

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
106. Well crap.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:36 AM
Mar 2016

What's the projected delagate count? I see 53-63. Ok edit again I don't know where the hell I got that from...

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
108. Not totally unexpected.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:38 AM
Mar 2016

The night has been very close. She's still ahead in delegates, but this puts the polling on its ear a bit. Time to donate more!

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