Hillary Clinton
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Delegate CountTotal Delegates: Clinton 1,221, Sanders 571 (Clinton +650).
Pledged Delegates: Clinton 770, Sanders 551 (Clinton +219).
Versus Targets: Clinton 770/682 (+88), Sanders 551/639 (-88).
2,383 delegates to secure nomination.
2,026 pledged delegates to secure the majority.
Clinton needs 46.0% of remaining pledged delegates.
Latest Results
March 8 (MI, MS): Clinton 93, Sanders 73 (Clinton +20).
Versus Targets: Clinton 93/86 (+7), Sanders 73/80 (-7).
Next Primary: March 15
Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio: 691 delegates total.
Targets: Clinton 365, Sanders 326.
Northern Marianas votes on March 12: 6 delegates.
Comments
As the headline of The Onion read in the period following 9/11, holy fucking shit.
Nobody, but nobody, had any rational reason to expect Bernie to win Michigan. Not a single poll had Hillary ahead by less than 5 points, and many polls showed her 20 points or more. This is the biggest primary upset since 1984, when Mondale led by 17 points in New Hampshire, but Gary Hart ended up winning by 9 points.
We don't know how it happened, and as you can see, it didn't help Bernie much at all; it just prolonged his stay in the race. Bernie has met or exceeded his target in eight contests, and in no case by more than 4 delegates. Even in Michigan, he exceeded his target by only 2.
Even so, Hillary supporters are very rightly reeling, and examining ourselves for complacency. For my part, I am temporarily (I hope) discontinuing the polls and projections part of this post. From now on, assume every poll is wrong, especially in open primary states (this includes Illinois, Missouri, and Ohio). I'm going to focus on hard numbers, and on getting out the vote everywhere I can.
I'm also discontinuing the GOP section because screw 'em.
How This Works
The total delegate count is taken from the AP. All other information is taken from FiveThirtyEight unless otherwise indicated. The total delegate count includes both pledged delegates, based on their margins in the states which have voted, and superdelegates, who have declared their intention to vote for one of the candidates (but may change their mind before the convention).
The target numbers indicate how many delegates each candidate would have to earn, or to have, in order to be on track to tie for the nomination; they take into account factors such as demographics.
Iditarod Update
Dallas Seavey out of Ophir at 02:21; Brent Sass in at 00:58, Nicholas Petit at 01:16.
livetohike
(22,124 posts)Hopefully, the Clinton team will nail down what happened and see how to address that. I really thought the Sunday night debate would have put Hillary in a good position for victory.
Cha
(296,868 posts)cbbruuno ??@cbbruuno
Fun fact- both George Wallace (1972) and Jesse Jackson (1988) both won in Michigan.
6:40 PM - 8 Mar 2016
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And, a comment by someone from Michigan on the Obama Diary..
mophene
March 9, 2016 at 4:52 am
Dont even bother trying to understand what happened in Michigan tonight. Consider this, George Wallace won the Dem primary in 1972, years later Jesse Jackson won. Lots of people cross over to wreck havoc in Dem and GOP primaries. The GOP are so desperate, even I received a robo call begging me to vote for Kasich. I almost did, because I thought Hillary had it in the bag. Glad I didnt listen to the polls. The last time I checked Hillary was down by 30k. Every vote counts! On the upside, Democratic enthusiasm looks damn good.
Signing out from the big D in MI
http://theobamadiary.com/2016/03/08/happy-international-womens-day/
I'm sure Hillary's Team will be all over this.. Just always hustle like we're 20 points behind.
livetohike
(22,124 posts)has closed primaries. So there shouldn't be too much messing around. People would have to change their registration for the primary. I think that date may have passed. .
Cha
(296,868 posts)Fla Dem
(23,591 posts)Cha
(296,868 posts)You're Welcome, Fla Dem
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)by looking at Repub results it looks like Kasich had a good night (not enough to win) in Michigan compared to the other States:
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results
LAS14
(13,769 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)scroll down to see more info...
LAS14
(13,769 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Maybe HRC voters cross-voted for the Republican side for someone like Kasich (he got more voters in Michigan than in other states, almost as many as Cruz, Trump won anyways) instead or something like that thinking that HRC was winning the State.
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)as to what happened in Michigan. Thank you!
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Treant
(1,968 posts)They're correct and you're reading them right.
That huge, much-yelled-about win for Sanders netted him 2 delegates over his target.
Clinton's completely unmentioned gigantic win in MS netted her 9 delegates over her target.
Overall from yesterday, Clinton pulled ahead by seven more delegates, Sanders fell behind by seven more delegates.
Effectively, the upshot from a stunning Sanders victory? He lost significant ground, increasing his deficit to -88 delegates against Clinton.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/