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https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/03/20/heartening-read-who-is-the-hillary-voter/
Eric Sasson, at TNR The media is obsessed with the Sanders voter and the Trump voter. Yet it is the Hillary voter who may have the last laugh:
We have heard much talk this cycle about the mood of our national electorate. People are angry. They are sick and tired of establishment politicians, and are gravitating toward outsiders, revolutionaries, people who are going to turn this country around. They are flocking to the polls in huge numbers to make their anger heard
The voter we almost never hear about, however, is the Clinton voter. Which is surprising, since Hillary Clinton has won more votes in the primaries than any other candidate so far. She has amassed over 2.5 million more votes than Sanders; over 1.1 million more votes than Trump. Clearly Clinton voters exist, yet there has been very little analysis as to who they are or why they are showing up to vote for her. Sure, there has been talk of Clintons dominance among African-American voters, and, to a lesser extent, Hispanic voters. Her voters seem to skew older and more affluent. But these are demographics. (And even demographics have a hard time explaining her commanding win in Ohio, or her wins in Massachusetts and Missouri.) There is almost no discussion of what is motivating these voters. If anything, the media seems to think they are holding their noses as they vote for Hillary. As a recent New York Times article suggested, Clinton is winning votes, not hearts.
Considering that narrative, one would expect Clinton to be faring far worse in the primaries. Instead, she currently holds a popular vote and delegate lead over Sanders that far surpasses Obamas lead over her at this point in the race in 2008.
This is no accident. An examination of Clinton voters and their motivations might reveal that the narrative that most media outlets have been feeding us this election cycle is dubious at best. Because if the biggest vote-getter of either party is Hillaryby a large marginthen that suggests the electorate is not necessarily as angry as pundits claim. It further suggests that perhaps some people are tired of hearing about how angry they are, and are quietly asserting their opinions at the ballot box. If Democrats are so angry, Clinton would not be in the position she is today. Is it really so farfetched to claim that quite a few Democrats arent voting for Sanders precisely because he seems angry? Which isnt to suggest that people arent angrycertainly many Republican primary voters seem to be. Rather, it is to suggest that voters who arent angry are still showing up at the polls, despite being ignored in news stories
Its certainly curious to presume, as many do, that Clintons supporters are somehow less enthusiastic than Sanderss are. How is enthusiasm measured, if not by actual vote count? And they are doing so despite the media narrative surrounding their candidate, despite hearing very little about themselves in the media, despite her damn emails, despite Benghazi, despite her low Gallup favorables, and despite how everyone else is Feeling the Bern. If anything, Clinton might need to thank the press for consistently underestimating her. Perhaps this is why her supporters are coming out for her in such strength: to assert their existence in the face of a narrative that both overlooks them and disparages their candidate
stonecutter357
(12,694 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)"Because if the biggest vote-getter of either party is Hillaryby a large marginthen that suggests the electorate is not necessarily as angry as pundits claim."
Anger.... so f*ing boring! Simplistic.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)See what its done to the repub party.
Cha
(296,886 posts)majority who are helping her path to the White House.
Mahalo, charly~
Treant
(1,968 posts)to talk about a candidate's voters when they have a clear majority. There are so many of them, and from all different walks of life.
Some of them surprise you. Hey, I'm a middle class, middle aged male who's a strong Clinton supporter and I'm happy, proud, and excited to vote for her in April and again in November.
We frequently analyze the niche candidate's voters as they're easier to look at and do tend to follow clearer demographic trends (as always, with exceptions). Certainly Sanders' campaign is--or should--be doing so in an effort to expand his demographics beyond the current sphere.
So much emphasis has been placed on the under 30 demographic by the media, but if all Bernie has is those voters he will come up lacking (as we are seeing). The majority of those folks are NOT coming out to vote in the primary, so calling the whole under 30 group for Bernie is a bit premature.
Treant
(1,968 posts)about this very thing, touting Bernie's support in the under-30 crowd.
Most the responses, which aren't being received well, point out the fact that he's losing every other demographic group by wide enough margins to trounce that youth advantage.
It might, if I thought people didn't change as they age, indicate that the revolution (so to speak) is in about fifteen years. But since I know I'm less of an idealist than I was at 30 and I've noticed that trend in everybody I know, I tend to doubt it.
Not to mention that one of the downsides of idealism is the belief that things are inevitable. That makes you far less likely to get off the couch and go vote. I know how often things go wrong, so my butt will be in the voting booth on April 26th come rain, hail, or high water.
But they fell in love with him. I stopped falling in love with my candidate after Eugene McCarthy then Bobby Kennedy in 1968. Sometimes that blinds you to what actually can be done; it certainly can break your heart!
BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)posting!
This:
Considering that narrative, one would expect Clinton to be faring far worse in the primaries. Instead, she currently holds a popular vote and delegate lead over Sanders that far surpasses Obamas lead over her at this point in the race in 2008.
The "revolution" has been happening all along and we are part of it.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)I tend to discount it. Maureen Dowd anyone?
Walk away
(9,494 posts)go figure!
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)any more than is necessary to get her elected.
What I'm trying to say is, I'm not marrying Hillary Clinton.
I'm voting and will be working to get an extremely intelligent, well qualified former Secretary of State elected POTUS.
I'm excited at the prospect of breaking down that barrier.
Maybe I'm defective for not needing to get all tingly when I think or talk about my preference in the primary.
Loki
(3,825 posts)You will lose every time.
GvilleDem
(41 posts)I've posted this on FB a lot recently in response to the dismay of last Tuesday.
Many Bernie supporters simply had no idea HRC fans even existed. Many were saying it must be fraud or something. Funny because after they post all these people suddenly popped out of the wood works to eek out "I support Hillary" in response.
Yeah, we just don't post stupid memes about it every hour.
I knew we were around right early. Great example here in the college town of Gainesville Florida. Me and my wonderful wife go into the grand opening of the HRC campaign office. We were told their would be maybe a dozen people.
Oh no no no.
After we finally found parking, the building was full to the brim. 70+ diverse and energized HRC fans ready to put some cream on that bern going around town.
UF is the 14th best public school in the nation, and one of the largest at that.
And our county still gave the majority vote to none other then HRC.
And we did that mere days after Bernie Sanders made a speech here. (Yeah, I saw the Bern live!)