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Related: About this forumWhy Hillary Clinton Will Win in 2016
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/06/22/why_hillary_clinton_will_win_in_2016_123058.html
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Eight years later, voters will have the chance to put another iniquitous legacy behind them. I think they will take it. The polls show Hillary leading all the likely Republican nominees, and I think that support is solid, particularly among women. Millions will demur to their husbands or more conservative colleagues, fib to pollsters and quietly fill out their ballots. America will find that its women have long memories.
It was in 1897 that Susan B. Anthony wrote, There never will be complete equality until women themselves help to make laws and elect lawmakers. More than a century later, Nancy Pelosi had those words -- and the words of others -- in her mind when she became the first female House speaker.
In a story she has told many times, Pelosi recalls going to the White House as speaker for the first time. She felt her chair getting crowded as though others were sitting in it with her.
I swear this happened, she said. And then I realized Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Lucretia Mott, Alice Paul, Sojourner Truth -- you name it -- they were all in that chair and I could hear them say: At last we have a seat at the table.
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So many people do not understand the above.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Hillary would be formidible.. just some tweaking on this money deal and I think she should be OK..... Does anyone know.. who she has rumored to pick as advisors? I know Podesta is an old friend/advisor.. Lanny Davis.... what about Robbie Mook who was on the Obama team.. I think he has been mentioned as well... I think Paul Krugman would be great as her economics advisor (that's just me wishing tho.. haha) Warren Buffet and Paul Volker would be good too.... I could actually see us picking up some Repub endorsements like Christine Todd Whitman, especially if the Repubs nominate a Cruz/Paul/Perry........
vadermike
(1,415 posts)I largely agree.. and like Hillary and respect her a great deal.. I voted for Bill twice and helped volunteer, (my first vote at 18 years old)... But she really needs to be careful when speaking about their money situation.. get a handle on this now .. becasue the Republicans could ride this to victory if she keeps speaking about this way.. look what happened to Romney... she is no Romney .. much much much better .. but they could do to us.. what we did to them if we are not careful.. I am encouraged she no longer has Mark Penn on the payroll and that she would be forming a new team.. but if she makes a few more gaffes like this , it could be lights out quickly.. ... IMO she is our best chance for '16........!!!
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)This is actually in the HRC group, which is for HRC fans to post in, not the rest of us. (Just a heads up.)
I respect and admire Senator Warren alot.. i sent money to her.. i don't think she would be as strong a candidate for us in '16 Pres.... now the future .. absolutely.. in the meantime she can build a nice progressive record in the Senate... !!! She will be much more effective there for now... IMO...
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)sorry...
vadermike
(1,415 posts)HRC is our best choice to win in '16.. normally i would say you sometimes have to take polls with a grain of salt.. but they are shwoing that should she run, which i think she will... she would be very strong.. i don't think all of the people in those polls are all lying.... mathematically as well as policy and personality wise she would be strong.. just needs some tweaks and needs to show that she is not "inevitable" , in other words it's fine if we get some primary challengers in there.. it should not be a complete cakewalk... it is helathy for the party..... IMO
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)why this keeps coming up I don't know....
William769
(55,142 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)William769
(55,142 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)If her policies align with yours, vote for her. Whether or not she's a woman doesn't matter.
William769
(55,142 posts)People are posting here to support her. In fact that's even in the SOP for this Group. So forgive me I just like to clarify all posts that are posted in this Group.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Perhaps to some women....the fact that she IS Democratic woman....that IS a good reason. Equality hasn't exactly happened yet has it?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Whether you're picking the candidate because she's a woman, or because he's a man.
Vote on policies. If you like Clinton's policies, vote for her. If you don't, vote for someone else. We'll see how the primaries turn out.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Have you ever been disenfranchised? As I said....easy for YOU to say....
If a woman wants to vote for a woman BECAUSE she is a woman....who are you to judge? I happen to have a couple Republican women friends back home...who may vote across Party lines to vote for another woman. As I said...who are you to judge?
William769
(55,142 posts)If you have something supportive to add, we will be more than happy to hear it. Otherwise...
jeff47
(26,549 posts)William769
(55,142 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)reverse sexism?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Vote for her because her policies align with yours. Whether she's a woman or a man doesn't matter.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Pretty easy for a White male to preach that....
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Voting for someone because of their race or sex is not equality. That is why you get angry when people vote for a white man because of race and sex.
Being the first ________ elected president is going to be recorded as an accomplishment - JFK as first Catholic. Obama as first African American. And if Clinton wins in 2016, she'll go down in history similarly.
But we should be voting for the best candidate, independent of their race, gender, religion, hair color, height, weight, speaking style, favorite color, or any of the other dumb reasons to choose a candidate.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)How dare you presume it is a woman you are talking to....
How dare you say that it isn't significant to have gotten a Black man to the Presidency...How dare you tell women its not as significant an achievement....
its all very easy for YOU to say...
women ARE the majority and we are the least represented group!
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The article advocates voting for Clinton because she's a woman.
I'm talking about choosing a candidate, not how the election will be recorded by history.
Voting for Clinton because she's a woman, as advocated by the article, is not a good thing. Vote for her because you like her policies, or you think she has the best chance to win.
We should be concerned about policy, not what a future historian writes.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Why does that bother you?
"vote against the woman to prove you are not JUST voting for her because she is a woman"!
ALBliberal
(2,334 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Our first female president. This nation needs her leadership.
doc03
(35,295 posts)worry about 2014. If the Republicans take the Senate in 2014 it won't much matter about 2016.
William769
(55,142 posts)Many of us can chew gum and walk at the same time.
I ask that you be respectful when posting in this Group.
Thank you.
doc03
(35,295 posts)was one. But I stand by my comment, why don't we worry about the 2014 election before we start on 2016. Remember Hillary was a shoe-in back in 2008, how did that work out? I wish she would have won back in 2008, I think she would have been a much better choice than Obama. I always just check the latest threads and am guilty of not seeing what group a thread is posted in sometimes.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)They can do that in gd.