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Do you think Bernie has the right to call his campaign a sucess even he will not win ? (Original Post) Iamaartist Mar 2016 OP
Yes metroins Mar 2016 #1
I Hope he will support the Democrat's ticket not sure he will Iamaartist Mar 2016 #3
That remains to be seen liberal N proud Mar 2016 #5
Yes and no metroins Mar 2016 #6
Bernie Iamaartist Mar 2016 #11
That's just an opinion.. in mine.. I say he's a loser. I know how he treats Hillary, President Cha Mar 2016 #2
Agree also! Iamaartist Mar 2016 #9
Depends on his definition of success liberal N proud Mar 2016 #4
Agree with you Iamaartist Mar 2016 #7
Of course. rogerashton Mar 2016 #8
If, by what is meant DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #10
A campaign has to call themselves a success sufrommich Mar 2016 #12
Reminds me of this Seinfeld "Marathon" scene: George II Mar 2016 #13
lol ! Iamaartist Mar 2016 #16
Yes,it shall musicman65 Mar 2016 #25
If the goal was to win the nomination, then it is not a success. Kaleva Mar 2016 #14
sure, he also has the right to call himself a "Social Democrat" when his biography, KittyWampus Mar 2016 #15
I don't give a shit about what Bernie calls his camaign as long as he calles it "Over"! Walk away Mar 2016 #17
lol Goodbye Bernie Iamaartist Mar 2016 #18
I think it's fine except that there has to be a time when he says book_worm Mar 2016 #19
He should get out now..... Iamaartist Mar 2016 #20
In queston why he ran as Dem anyway was it for the republican, party could be Iamaartist Mar 2016 #21
Nope. Not even close GusBob Mar 2016 #22
He can say what he wants ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #23
He can call it what he wants. charlyvi Mar 2016 #24
This is like when Jesus was crucified and Gomez163 Mar 2016 #26

metroins

(2,550 posts)
1. Yes
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:45 AM
Mar 2016

I don't think he ever expected to win.

So he's put together a good campaign.

I really hope he begins to support Democrat's down the ticket.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
6. Yes and no
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

Yes he'll shift his support.

No, his followers will sit at home unless Trump goes even further nuts and scares them into coming out.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
11. Bernie
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:03 AM
Mar 2016

His supporters are so much in rage and some of the things I hear is a big question will they support Hillary after the damage was done by him

Cha

(297,026 posts)
2. That's just an opinion.. in mine.. I say he's a loser. I know how he treats Hillary, President
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

Obama, the Dems and the Democratic process.

And, all the free stuff he promises.. the People in the diverse states aren't buying it no matter how much money he spends.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
4. Depends on his definition of success
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

If it was to divide the Democratic Party, he has partially succeeded in doing that.

I don't think he ever expected to get this far so that would also allow him to call it a success. I didn't expect to get to first base, but I made it to second base, no score but I did better than I thought I would.

Success can be so subjective.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
8. Of course.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

He has accomplished two things.

1) He has shown that small money can compete effectively with big money.

2) He has shown that the "socialist" label is not a death sentence in American politics.

Those are major successes, and the fat lady hasn't quite yet begun to sing.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
10. If, by what is meant
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:00 AM
Mar 2016

as success, in that he has succeeded in playing the Democratic Party, then sure. If you look at his vocal opposition to the party itself over the years, and that he has lumped Dems in with Repubs for years, then yes. Because he wants to destroy the party. He's only a Democrat because of MONEY and EXPOSURE. His own words, not supposition by me.

Overall, I'd have to say no.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
15. sure, he also has the right to call himself a "Social Democrat" when his biography,
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:29 AM
Mar 2016

his voting history and rhetoric and his current verbiage all clearly indicate he is much more radical than a social democrat.

Social democrats wouldn't want to seize Rockefeller's property.

It's called Freedom of Speech.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
17. I don't give a shit about what Bernie calls his camaign as long as he calles it "Over"!
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:40 AM
Mar 2016
bye bye Bernie!

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
19. I think it's fine except that there has to be a time when he says
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:42 AM
Mar 2016

are my attacks hurting the prospective democratic nominee and aiding the GOP by building up her negatives? At that point and clearly he has no path to the nomination he should get out.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
21. In queston why he ran as Dem anyway was it for the republican, party could be
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:51 AM
Mar 2016

Its The Media also they just keep going at it, of course they want the republicans to win,i also think he has his foot in that and how many of his so call supporters are republicans ????

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
22. Nope. Not even close
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:04 PM
Mar 2016

The guy is a loser from start to finish.

Don't get me started on his supporters

The post mortems on this campaign will not be kind.

ETA: best outcome: his campaign manager will no longer be in charge of funerals for our party. The post mortems will nail his hide to the wall.

ismnotwasm

(41,971 posts)
23. He can say what he wants
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:24 PM
Mar 2016

He can spin it as a success if his actual goal was to bring economic injustice to the fore, and offer visions of alternatives, if he so chooses

To me, what actually has happened, is very different. What has happened is a lot of asses are showing. Bigotry and prejudice on the left has been exposed, gloves off, no pretty words to hide it. Successful and real grassroots movements such as BLM were able to use this exposure and start a revolution that matters. Sexism has shown us yet another face, with the ability to degrade a powerful woman and ignore what she is actually going to accomplish if she become POTUS.

We have found that a large and growing number of people on the left believe in conspiracy theories before they believe in facts, will accept any spin of a situation if it fits the narrative of thier opinion. (Most recently the "disastrous last eight years" bullshit, which not only was bullshit of epic proportions, but almost mind-numbing in its proliferation)

This exposure *is* the greatest success of the Sanders campaign. We, who hang out at DU, despite the awareness that it is a political bubble, I'm sure are not unaware that the Ugly American is very active all over the Internet. There is a LOT of push back, however, allies are finding each other, coalitions are being formed. The 3rd party-left and Democrats of good intent, heart and spirit abjure the bigotry, the sexism, the racial prejudice that this election cycle has exposed inside so many of us.

So we come, full circle. Wouldn't it be ironic if the greatest success of the Bernie movement was the awareness of and the promotion of the self reflection needed to promote social justice rather than the unobtainable economic changes that were called for? And once we have identified and owned our part and set the stage properly for social changes that matter, we reached out and made those economic changes in an environment conducive to them so they could reach all human beings?

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
26. This is like when Jesus was crucified and
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:29 PM
Mar 2016

they had to put a good spin on it so they came up ith the whole Christian thing.

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