Hillary Clinton

book_worm

(15,951 posts) Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:33 PM Mar 2016

HRC keeps winning the key swing states...

By and large it has been HRC who has been winning the key swing states in this election. Just think of it--the two biggest swing states are Ohio and Florida--and both went handily to HRC. Then there is Iowa, Virginia, North Carolina, Nevada and Arizona (Yes, it's looking like AZ will be a swing state this year). The only truly swing state I think Bernie has won is Colorado. Look, I know the Bernie folks are proud of his landslide wins in Utah and Idaho--and polls do indicate there is an outside chance that the Dems may take Utah if Trump is the nominee--but really Utah and Idaho? They are redder than many of the "confederacy" states that Bernie supporters were so contemptuous of HRC winning.

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HRC keeps winning the key swing states... (Original Post) book_worm Mar 2016 OP

look at demographics in Idaho, Utah, Kansas, Nebraska, all bernie wins in "red" states nt msongs Mar 2016 #1

Yeah, all small state caucus states where turnout is book_worm Mar 2016 #3

If Bernie wins a Red state, it's a huge victory but when HRC wins one, it's meaningless. Kaleva Mar 2016 #2

Yes, it is no coincidence that Sanders won Idaho, rife with gun nut militias. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #4

"Rural" gun nut militias. Not "urban." Key difference. nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #5

Berns is getting support from the far right. Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #6

I Think This Is Right DarthDem Mar 2016 #7

msongs

(67,361 posts)

1. look at demographics in Idaho, Utah, Kansas, Nebraska, all bernie wins in "red" states nt

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Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:36 PM

Mar 2016

book_worm

(15,951 posts)

3. Yeah, all small state caucus states where turnout is

Reply to msongs (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:41 PM

Mar 2016

really not all that great. Primaries are more democratic. (BTW, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina--all red states which went to HRC).

Kaleva

(36,258 posts)

2. If Bernie wins a Red state, it's a huge victory but when HRC wins one, it's meaningless.

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Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:37 PM

Mar 2016

SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)

4. Yes, it is no coincidence that Sanders won Idaho, rife with gun nut militias.

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:41 PM

Mar 2016

And very, very homogeneously white. Like Utah, ground zero of the prepper movement.

Both states had open caucuses, fertile ground for infiltration by Republicans, Libertarians and angry Independents.