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I did search, but found nothing...

no doubt to fix glaring errors. It's not available in google cache either but if you go to the slimey Caracas Chronicles, you can see in the right hand column that people commented on it. Quite strange how something so huge got wiped so quickly.

So either a new and improved article will appear soon or they'll scrub the references to those replies and pretend it was never there.

Curiously enough, the only Google web reference to this article is right here at DU, in our very own little corner for right wing politics. (http://www.google.com/search?q=huge-chavista-intelligence-document-trove-leaked).

this kind of unreliable 'news'. It must be frustrating though to spend so much time and effort on trying to discredit one of the most effective leaders in Latin America in recent times and to fail so dismally.

it must be so frustrating. I'll try to be more charitable in the future.

If these yahoos have 12,000 intelligence files from the Bolivarian National Intelligence Service, SEBIN, you can bet they were released by the biggest spying country in the world.

Our right wing and the Venezuelan rightwing have no shame, no loyalty to the people, no conscience and no morals whatsover.


What a criminal like Capriles isn't doing in jail is beyond me.

The Games have begun. The propaganda shute is in full flood.

When Otto Reich laid out his gameplan to destabilize Venezuela ahead of the elections, I knew his crew would stop at nothing.

Full flood ahead but it won't work. It won't fool the Veneuzelan pueblo and it won't work to provide cover for any Western intervention either. I see it already. Arm the opposition and egg on their crimes but flood the US media with images of the rightful government defending itself against the foreign interference, send in covert help, arms, Libya, Syria, rinse, lather, repeat.

We killed so many in the Middle East and North Africa. Over 250,000 in Guatemala. What's a few more in Venezuela when the largest proved oil reserves are only 4 hours away.

I hope my country hasn't sunk that low but experience says differently.

It amazes me that they don't even bother to come up with an explanation for taking a news story out of view.

They probably figured they jumped the gun since they hadn't even looked at the files before writing that and were sending people to see the extent of Capriles' treachery towards Venezuela also.

They're all busily downloading the files right now from these links: https://www.facebook.com/Analisis24/posts/354419038002275 , http://analisis24.com/venezuela-asi-espia-el-sebin-ilegalmente-a-henrique-capriles-radonski-su-familia-y-su-entorno-junto-a-personalidades-de-la-oposicion/

I'm not even going to waste my time because as far as I'm concerned, the government should have kept that rat in jail for life.

...you have to look fast "B4" more right wing nonsense is posted.

Only despair explains labeling Capriles as a "moderate leftist" instead of coup plotter, criminal and expecting us to buy it. Thanks for the info, don't care much for their lies either, but it's impressive to see how low they can go.

I've not seen that

And it speaks very highly of Chavez and freedom in Venezuela that he's not rotting away in jail.

I really think it best, at this point, that if you really care to find out the truth, that you take a trip to Venezuela to talk to real people and not rely on the rightwing expat press, or our dishonest US press that deliberately lied us into several wars and rarely tells the truth.

I would be delighted to accompany you.

If you care about justice and freedom and progress, you can't rely on news coming from the very same people who did everything they could to stomp out any progress in Venezuela because they could no longer profit from enslaving people. Capriles is Otto Reich's candidate. That alone should give you nightmares.

This excerpt is very mild but it's a good start.

I am in Panama a lot and could probably hop over for a weekend at least. Thanks for the info.

As far as calling him a plotter, I hadn't realized the stuff that you posted before. In any event, isn't it much more about what a coup stands for that matters?

What I mean is: Chavez himself was of course a coup-plotter, yet isn't criticized for that. So being a coup plotter in and of itself is not really the issue. right?

let me know, via PM, when you can make this happen and we'll go for it.

What do you mean by "what a coup stands for that matters"? That coup was to deliver all of Venezuela's resources back to the business community and their bullshit about trickle down economics.

Chavez spent some years in jail for his part in the 1992 coup against the rightwing President Carlos Andrés Pérez who was using the Army to gun down THOUSANDS of Venezuelans in the streets. It wasn't just Chavez but many Army officers didn't want his crimes on their conscience and they rose up.

This had nothing to do with advancing socialism or fighting neoliberalism. They were just sick of seeing Venezuelans mowed down and for what? So a few wealthy people could make even more obscene profits?

I don't know you Naaman. For all I know you could be a rightwinger but I don't think so otherwise you'd be on my ignore list. I will just tell you this.

Imagine if a George Bush had used US military troops to gun down his own people... US citizens. Who would be your hero? The "law-abiding" officers who played ball or the brave brave young officers stood up who said "STOP! This is wrong! We WILL NOT KILL our own citizens"?

Our Venezuelan brothers and sisters deserve that same solidarity from us who have seen the crimes, the cruelty the same international right wing will resort to.

It goes like this- WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON? ... Before traveling to my neck of the woods, it's best to answer this question in your soul first because Coca Cola, a naive smile and other bullshit don't convince people who are fighting for their lives.

And I'm not a right-winger, despite what some here would say.

As to the "coup", we are on the same page.

What I meant was: "what a coup was about matters" not just that "so and so was a coup plotter".

So, chavez involvement in coup = good
Capriles not so good.

But still thinks he should've "spent his life in prison" for being innocent of all crimes. I guess that fits with the Venezuelan narrative since there are tens of thousands of prisoners in Venezuela's prisons who have yet to even go to trial.

Capriles stupidly jumped the Cuban embassy wall to talk to the Cubans and tell them he'd keep them safe.

The Cuban ambassador is on record saying as much.

They just wanted to fry him for doing the right thing.

Of course on this forum because Capriles is perceived as a bad guy he must be a bad guy regardless of his actions. The biggest charge against Capriles was that he refused to use armed police forces to disperse a crowd and did so sanely by standing on the wall and pleading with the protesters.

It's disgusting what sort of shit gets flung at Capriles.

edit: BTW, to make it clear, Capriles was not involved in any way with a coup, which the poster knows, but spreads disinformation. Chavez was involved in a coup in which people died and he spent time in prison for, he was convicted.

Chavez = convict

Capriles = free man, innocent of all charges

My big problem is with for profit coups financed by the international business community. And I have a huge problem with oppressing millions of people so a few international criminals can luxuriate in their obscene profits while they impose austerity on the rest of us.

Would that we the world had been lucky enough for Bush to have been stopped in 2000 and his father earlier too.

Capriles is a rightwinger whose party was created and financed by George Bush and the Internatonal Republican Insitute so the rich can regain everything they feel the poor owe them. What's the use of fighting Republicans over here if we're going to support them overseas? Anyone in the same company as the thug Otto Reich, on a democratic website, and supporting Otto Reich's rightwing candidate really must ask themselves what they're doing here. I didn't think you support that anyway or we wouldn't be talking.

Another thing about Chavez' coup is that it was against George H Bush's thug friend Carlos Andrés Pérez who sold his country to the IMF, suspended the constitution, abolished fuel and food subsidies, increased gas prices, privatized state industries, cut spending on health care and education and ruthlessly murdered his starving people. That's when opposition to the rule of Venezuela's elite, who were collaborating with American imperialism and the IMF, began and erupted in the "Caracazo" riots of 27 February 1989.

A coup that results in boligarchs getting rich = good.

way too lenient with the traitors who attempted to oust a democratically elected president. It set a standard, much like what happened here when the Iran Contra criminals were let off the hook also. These traitors never stop once they realize they can get away with it. Not just for his own sake, but for his country's sake, it was necessary to come down hard on anyone, no matter how remotely involved they were in that threasonous act to send a message that such treason would not be tolerated.

The country is paying a price, as we have, by allowing these traitors to go free. Caprilles and every single conspirator and their lackies should be in jail for a long, long time.

I give Chavez credit for his patience. I just think it was wrong not to ensure that what happened in 2002 never happen again by making the consequences as severe as possible.

called "Tradition, Family and Property" (Tradición, Familia y Propiedad) moderate Left? LMAO, you are so right.

Only Fox news could come up with such an obscenity.

I noticed that not even Fox would give its readers any political reasons to support Capriles other than he's against socialism. Not even FOX dared tell voters what this guy is really about.

In today's article called "A Case For Capriles", here are the only reasons they dared list. Note the irony in "no-one will be above the law" when Capriles, the criminal who participated in the 2000 coup, assaulted the Cuban embassy and whose prosecutor mysteriously died in a car bombing, is roaming free.

Not because of some conspiracy that is oh so easily attached to on these forums.

Whether the files are valid are up to debate.

Simply shutting down discussion before it even starts, however, is a typical authoritarian tactic.

to avoid any explanation. How cute.

Will you please catch up?

right wing propaganda, is disturbing at best. One doesn't always need to see the proof, right wing propaganda is not hard to recognize.

Total nonsense. These documents may or may not be totally accurate but they have to be legit in some form or another. It's too hard to falsify such a large dataset. Any falsehoods should be spotted.

Especially when there are traitors working to undermine the democratically elected government. I would like to know who released that information, I'm sure a lot of people would. The Venezuelan Govt, as I have said already, were far too lenient with the traitors, which include Chavez's opponent in the last election, who participated in the treasonous act that tried but failed to overthrow the government. Here they would have received the death penalty.

The right of the government to protect its leaders from known traitors and other terrorists, is inviolate. They should not have been just spying on Caprilles, he should have been in jail for a long, long time. Lucky for him he was in a true democratic country and not here in the US where he would never see the light of day again for his participation and for his associations with the traitors who assaulted a democratically elected leader.

Sick of seeing this right wing crap on this democratic forum. Not that anyone here buys it, but it is old and if we want to see it, there are plenty of right wing boards where I'm sure it's more than available.

"It's OK if they do it if it's a perceived enemy."

Capriles did not "participate in the treasonous act that tried but failed to overthrow the government." He was completely absolved of all actions in 2002. Of course, who cares about democracy and fair trial, "he should have been in jail for a long, long time." Right? Your words.

Sick of seeing this authoritarian garbage posted here.

BTW, you said, "I would like to know who released that information, I'm sure a lot of people would."

I bet a lot of people would want to know the same for Wikileaks. Horrible. Anonymous whistle blowers should be respected and no one should "like to know" who releases anything.

Known traitors should be in jail. If they are lucky enough to live in a real democratic nation like Venezuela where they are not, if the government intel organizations receive information of activities that are treasonous, every nation in the world has a right to keep them under surveillance.

Here in the US we do not confine surveillance to known criminals unfortunately, ordinary people who peacefully exercise their 1st Amendment rights, are on 'terror' lists. A total disgrace and misunse of the inteligence organizations.

Wikileaks released information on BUSH WAR CRIMES. Big difference, but I am not at all suprised you might have difficulty making that distinction. All whistle-blowers who expose CRIMES in any decent society should be appreciated and protected by their government. Consorting with enemies of a country, as the Far Right in Venezuela is guilty of, should be arrested and/or watched to find out who they are being financed and/or backed by.

Chavez was way too lenient with those traitors. I hope Venezuela will be less tolerant in the future of treasonous Right Wing operatives.

He has never been a traitor to Venezuela and he, without violently using police, ended a confrontation peacefully. And of course, he got in trouble for inciting a riot for, get this, not actually fucking using the police and shooting protesters. The perfectly progressive thing to do.

It is a crime to spy on innocent people which Capriles decidedly is.

If Carlos Andrés Pérez had your attitude of being "less tolerant" then Chavez would've been put in front of a firing squad. If Batista had the same attitude of being "less tolerant" of Castro then he, too, would've been put in front of a firing squad. Your vile desire to see innocent people imprisoned for a "long long time" reflects the attitude of those dictators very well.

Next you'll be telling me about how North Korea is correct to punish, severely, anyone who questions the state.

And no substantive discussion on the spying that the chavistas have done.

Typical.

to show their Stalinist colleagues how it's done.

This is seriously Cuba-level spying shit here.

What's ironic (the authoritarian left never ceases to inundate us with their ironies) is that the WSWS hates this sort of political spying.

But, it's "OK" when the presumed left (really authoritarians) do it.