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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts) Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:48 PM Mar 2013

Venezuela rejects UN condemnations of Syria, N. Korea, and Sri Lanka

http://el-nacional.com/mundo/Venezuela-ONU-Corea-Norte-Lanka_0_158384218.html

Only country on the human rights commission to oppose the measure against Syria.

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Fue el único país que se opuso hoy a la condena en el Consejo de Derechos Humanos de la ONU al gobierno de Siria

Venezuela fue el único país que se opuso el viernes a la condena en el Consejo de Derechos Humanos de la ONU al gobierno de Siria, en una resolución adoptada por 41 votos a favor, 1 en contra y 5 abstenciones, que sostiene las conclusiones de la Comisión Investigadora de Naciones Unidas sobre ese país, presidida por el brasileño Paulo Pinheiro.

"Es la destrucción del espacio de la sociedad civil, hay un mercado que se beneficia de la violencia; la inexistencia del Estado de Derecho en una situación de guerra civil, y la intensificación de la militarización del conflicto, sin que sea acompañado de negociaciones diplomáticas", había resumido Pinheiro a la AFP cuando presentó el informe sobre la situación en Siria días pasados en Ginebra.

Al debatirse dicho informe Venezuela pareció justificar su voto de hoy en contra de la resolución sobre Siria por "la continuada y sostenida campaña mediática internacional destinada a satanizar los esfuerzos emprendidos por el Gobierno sirio, apelando a la manipulación de la información sobre lo que acontece en el país, muchas veces obtenida de fuentes poco fiables". Ecuador fue uno de los 5 países que se abstuvieron contra Siria.

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Venezuela rejects UN condemnations of Syria, N. Korea, and Sri Lanka (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 OP

They were actually correct on this Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #1

Yep, those Syrian rebels strafing and bombing civilians COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #2

Just like the USSR bombed & strafed those mujahadeen... Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #3

The Soviet war in Afghanistan predates the Responsiblity to Protect by a quarter decade. joshcryer Mar 2013 #4

Riight Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #5

R2P puts a question into how civil wars are fought. joshcryer Mar 2013 #6

Sarcasm appears to be lost on you. nt COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #7

Look at the below link. THAT's a good reason for ditching Assad. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #8

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)

1. They were actually correct on this

Reply to Bacchus4.0 (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 01:06 PM

Mar 2013

Condemning a government fighting a civil war for human rights violations is nuts. And the opposition, well, who knows who they are? Since Khomeini hijacked the overthrow of the shah I've been suspicious in the extreme of taking sides in any internal dispute between different factions in a foreign country. You don't know who the opposition is. The current leaders may be awful, but that doesn't make the opposition any better. And you don't know, unless you're actually there on the ground seeing it happen, who's doing what to whom.
Ecuador's abstention was also a correct stance.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)

2. Yep, those Syrian rebels strafing and bombing civilians

Reply to Benton D Struckcheon (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:55 PM

Mar 2013

with their jets are certainly a problem. I can see your point.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)

3. Just like the USSR bombed & strafed those mujahadeen...

Reply to COLGATE4 (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:37 PM

Mar 2013

...who later went on to plan 9/11???

Sorry, not willing to go down that garden path again. Good intentions, road to Perdition and all that.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)

4. The Soviet war in Afghanistan predates the Responsiblity to Protect by a quarter decade.

Reply to Benton D Struckcheon (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:29 PM

Mar 2013

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)

5. Riight

Reply to joshcryer (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:07 AM

Mar 2013

I wish we could resurrect Sherman and have him take a look at that. Somehow I doubt he'd have called off his March to the Sea in response.
Civil war is not a pretty thing. Getting entangled in one not your own is the height of stupidity.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)

6. R2P puts a question into how civil wars are fought.

Reply to Benton D Struckcheon (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 01:28 AM

Mar 2013

Because civil wars (and other crackdowns) invariably involve civilians in the mix, states can intervene, with the blessing of the UN, of course.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)

7. Sarcasm appears to be lost on you. nt

Reply to Benton D Struckcheon (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 10:31 AM

Mar 2013

Benton D Struckcheon

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8. Look at the below link. THAT's a good reason for ditching Assad.

Reply to COLGATE4 (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 23, 2013, 02:17 PM

Mar 2013

It's called smart diplomacy that advances our interests: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022555995

...as opposed to getting ourselves entangled in a civil war for no good reason.

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