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Tansy_Gold

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Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:00 PM Oct 2015

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2/2/12 David Higgs and Salmaan Siddiqui, Credit Suisse, plead guilty to conspiracy involving valuation of MBS
3/6/12 Allen Stanford, former Caribbean billionaire and general schmuck, convicted on 13 of 14 counts in $2.2B Ponzi scheme, faces 20+ years in prison
6/4/12 Matthew Kluger, lawyer, sentenced to 12 years in prison, along with co-conspirator stock trader Garrett Bauer (9 years) and co-conspirator Kenneth Robinson (not yet sentenced) for 17 year insider trading scheme.
6/14/12 Allen Stanford sentenced to 110 years without parole.
6/15/12 Rajat Gupta, former Goldman Sachs director, found guilty of insider trading. Could face a decade in prison when sentenced later this year.
6/22/12 Timothy S. Durham, 49, former CEO of Fair Financial Company, convicted of one count conspiracy to commit wire and securities fraud, 10 counts of wire fraud, and one count of securities fraud.
6/22/12 James F. Cochran, 56, former chairman of the board of Fair, convicted of one count of conspiracy to commit wire and securities fraud, one count of securities fraud, and six counts of wire fraud.
6/22/12 Rick D. Snow, 48, former CFO of Fair, convicted of one count of conspiracy to commit wire and securities fraud, one count of securities fraud, and three counts of wire fraud.
7/13/12 Russell Wassendorf Sr., CEO of collapsed brokerage firm Peregrine Financial Group Inc. arrested and charged with lying to regulators after admitting to authorities he embezzled "millions of dollars" and forged bank statements for "nearly twenty years."
8/22/12 Doug Whitman, Whitman Capital LLC hedge fund founder, convicted of insider trading following a trial in which he spent more than two days on the stand telling jurors he was innocent
10/26/12 UPDATE: Former Goldman Sachs director Rajat Gupta sentenced to two years in federal prison. He will, of course, appeal. . .
11/20/12 Hedge fund manager Matthew Martoma charged with insider trading at SAC Capital Advisors, and prosecutors are looking at Martoma's boss, Steven Cohen, for possible involvement.
02/14/13 Gilbert Lopez, former chief accounting officer of Stanford Financial Group, and former controller Mark Kuhrt sentenced to 20 yrs in prison for their roles in Allen Sanford's $7.2 billion Ponzi scheme.
03/29/13 Michael Sternberg, portfolio mgr at SAC Capital, arrested in NYC, charged with conspiracy and securities fraud. Pled not guilty and freed on $3m bail.
04/04/13 Matthew Marshall Taylor,fmr Goldman Sachs trader arrested, charged by CFTC w/defrauding his employer on $8BN futures bet "by intentionally concealing the true huge size, as well as the risk and potential profits or losses associated."
04/04/13 Matthew Taylor admits guilt, makes plea bargain. Sentencing set for 26 June; faces up to 20 years in prison but will likely only see 3-4 years. Says, "I am truly sorry."
04/11/13 Ex-KPMG LLP partner Scott London charged by federal prosecutors w/passing inside tips to a friend in exchange for cash, jewelry, and concert tickets; expected to plead guilty in May.
08/01/13 Fabrice Tourré convicted on six counts of security fraud, including "aiding and abetting" his former employer, Goldman Sachs
08/14/13 Javier Martin-Artajo and Julien Grout charged with wire fraud, falsifying records, and conspiracy in connection with JP Morgan's "London Whale" trade.
08/19/13 Phillip A. Falcone, manager of hedge fund Harbinger Capital Partners, agrees to admit to "wrongdoing" in market manipulation. Will banned from securities industry for 5 years and pay $18MM in disgorgement and fines.
09/16/13 Javier Martin-Artajo and Julien Grout officially indicted on charges associated with "London Whale" trade.
02/06/14 Matthew Martoma convicted of insider trading while at hedge fund SAC (Stephen A. Cohen) Capital Advisors. Expected sentence 7-10 years.
03/24/14 Annette Bongiorno, Bernard Madoff's secretary; Daniel Bonventre, director of operations for investments; JoAnn Crupi, an account manager; and Jerome O'Hara and George Perez, both computer programmers convicted of conspiracy to defraud clients, securities fraud, and falsifying the books and records.
05/19/14 Credit Suisse, which has an investment bank branch in NYC, agrees to plead guilty and pay appx. $2.6 billion penalties for helping wealthy Americans hide wealth and avoid taxes.
09/08/14 Matthew Martoma, convicted SAC trader, sentenced to 9 years in prison plus forfeiture of $9.3 million, including home and bank accounts
08/03/15 Former City (London) trader Tom Hayes found guilty of rigging global Libor interest rates. Each fo eight counts carries up to 10 yr. sentence.
08/21/15 Charles Antonucci Sr, former pres. Park Ave. Bank sentenced to 2.5 years in prison for bribery, fraud, embezzlement, and attempt to steal $11MM in TARP bailout funds, as well as $37.5MM fraud on OK insurance company. To pay $54MM in restitution and give up additional $11MM.
09/21/15 Volkswagen CEO Martin Winterkorn apologizes for VW cheating on air quality standards with emission testing avoidance device. Stock drops 20%, fines may total $18B.
09/22/15 Stewart Parnell, CEO Peanut Corp. of America, sentenced to 28 years in prison for selling salmonella-tainted peanut butter that killed nine.





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Tansy_Gold

(17,847 posts)
1. Actually . . .
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:03 PM
Oct 2015

. . . . I hope they eat his sniveling little prissy ass for lunch.


I was once told that alligators have very little strength in their jaws for opening, which is why it's very east to hold their mouths shut. But they have enormous strength for closing those jaws quickly and keeping them closed. Hmmmmmm.......

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
2. I bet you did'nt know they will eat french fries.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:44 PM
Oct 2015

We have a retention pond next to the Irish Pub where we watch the Browns games. It's got a 4 foot concrete wall topped with a 6 foot steel fence. And inside resides a 10 ft gator. He's probably been in there since he was a puppy gator, and he has no way out. Since he's not in the wild, we feed him.

The other day after lunch I was tossing him french fries, one at a time and he was eating them. So, I ran over to Aldi's and bought him a couple of chickens.

Feeding him that asshole would be cruelty. Gotta cause heartburn and indigestion. We thought about tossing him a few Steelers fans, but that would be worse.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
4. I doubt that there's a tower that could control it. But rain would help!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 09:20 PM
Oct 2015




"Fly, my pretties, fly!"
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
5. This map shows how the world’s richest people built their fortunes
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 09:25 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/inherited-vs-self-made-a-map-of-how-the-worlds-richest-built-their-fortunes-2015-10-26?siteid=YAHOOB

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There’s a mostly even split among the world’s richest, at least when broken down in each country by who made their own money and who had it handed down from mommy and daddy.

That’s the conclusion illustrated on this map posted by Raul Amoros on cost-estimating website HowMuch.net. Overall, the breakdown shows that 52% of the wealthiest people from each nation were born with a silver spoon. The rest had to create their own vast sums.

Of note, the self-made riches tend to have more, with an average wealth that’s 58% greater than those who inherited their money. Three of the richest men in the world — Bill Gates, Spain’s Amancio Ortega and Mexico’s Carlos Slim — all fall on the “self-made” side and are far wealthier than the biggest beneficiary of family riches — L’Oréal heiress Liliane Bettencourt of France.

“One might be forgiven for thinking that around the world, the richest of the rich were all born into their money," Amoros wrote. “After all, a self-made person would have to accumulate wealth so quickly that within one generation they surpass a family that’s been accumulating it for several. “

DemReadingDU

(16,000 posts)
17. It's not about how much you earn, it's what you are worth!
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:33 AM
Oct 2015

1 minute video

It's different this time
A business doesn't need any revenue
It's not about how much you earn, it's what you are worth!







 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
6. Just got back from the poll workers' pep rally
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 09:29 PM
Oct 2015

City elections next week; only one ward has a contest, but we are doing it city-wide anyway. During the easy elections we poll workers practice up for the Big One next November 2016, trying out new equipment and procedures.

It makes for a long day, 6 AM until at least 9 PM. But it's nice to be appreciated.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
7. IBM nears $2B deal for Weather Channel’s digital assets
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 09:33 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ibm-nears-2b-deal-for-weather-channels-digital-assets-2015-10-27?siteid=YAHOOB

International Business Machines Corp. is nearing a deal to acquire the digital and data assets of Weather Co., owner of the Weather Channel, according to people familiar with the situation.

The deal, which would be valued at more than $2 billion, could be announced as early as Wednesday, one of the people said. The deal doesn’t include the traditional TV channel business but does include such digital businesses as the website and app, intellectual property, infrastructure and data, the people said.

IBM IBM, -4.04% is particularly interested in Weather Co.’s forecasting group, WSI. That division houses technology and weather data that the Weather Co. collects, manipulates and licenses to companies ranging from airlines to utility companies to insurance providers.

Weather Co. is owned by a consortium that includes private-equity firms Bain Capital LLC and Blackstone Group LP, and Comcast Corp.’s CMCSA, -1.03% NBCUniversal. They bought the company in 2008 for roughly $3.5 billion. Weather Co. Chief Executive David Kenny is expected to join IBM after the deal closes, according to one of the people.

Weather Co. had courted various types of potential buyers. More than a year ago, Google Inc. GOOG, -0.60% GOOGL, +0.23% was offered the chance to bid on the Weather Channel’s digital assets but the company wasn’t interested, according to a person familiar with the matter.

IS THIS WHY WEATHER UNDERGROUND IS OFFLINE THIS EVENING?
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
9. Obama administration cracks down on banking on college campuses
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 06:30 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-administration-cracks-down-on-banking-on-college-campuses-2015-10-27?siteid=YAHOOB

The government is making it harder for financial institutions to market their products to one of the most captive — and lucrative — audiences: College students.

Under new rules announced by the Department of Education Tuesday, colleges that partner with financial institutions to disburse financial aid funds will be required to ensure that students have a choice in the way they receive those funds and have access to a way to receive them without onerous fees.

In the process of making the new rules, the Department identified some “troubling practices” in the college debt and prepaid card space, such as a scarcity of options available to students looking to access their financial aid dollars and a lack of transparency, Ted Mitchell, the Department’s undersecretary said on a conference call with reporters. The goal of the new rules, which largely take effect on July 1, 2016, is to curb these practices and increase opportunities to make informed choices, he said.

Consumer advocates have argued that the financial aid process is rife with opportunities for companies to take advantage of students. Colleges often partner with outside companies to distribute a students’ leftover financial aid funds after the school takes what it’s owed from the pool of federal financial aid dollars it draws down from the federal government...
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
10. Amazon delivery workers sue, say they should be full employees
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 06:31 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/amazon-delivery-workers-sue-say-they-should-be-full-employees-2015-10-27?siteid=YAHOOB

Amazon.com Inc., which has quickly built a network of on-demand workers for its one-hour delivery service, now faces a lawsuit over how those workers are treated.

The suit, filed Tuesday in Los Angeles County, Calif., Superior Court on behalf of four couriers, seeks back wages and compensation for expenses like fuel and workers’ compensation insurance. The workers are contracted through Scoobeez, a unit of closely held ABT Holdings Inc.

The action potentially thrusts Amazon AMZN, +0.49% into the center of a debate roiling Silicon Valley over whether on-demand workers should be treated as employees or independent contractors. Companies such as Uber Technologies Inc. and Postmates Inc. have faced similar suits over their workforce.

Amazon’s Prime Now service, available in more than a dozen U.S. metropolitan areas, promises delivery of thousands of goods within one hour for $7.99 or two hours or more free. The Seattle retailer recently introduced the service in San Francisco and San Antonio. Amazon recently began a separate delivery program that relies on couriers not under contract with third-party companies. The Flex service allows regular people to sign up for shifts using their smartphones and make package delivery for Amazon in Seattle.

In the suit, the couriers allege Amazon pays less than minimum wage and treats them like employees, including requiring they wear uniforms and work at set times.
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
11. Senate Passes Cybersecurity Threat Sharing Bill That Tech Hates
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 06:43 AM
Oct 2015
http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/27/senate-passes-cybersecurity-threat-sharing-bill-that-tech-hates/

In a crushing blow to the tech industry and privacy advocates, the Senate today passed the controversial Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA). The bill, which passed the Senate on a 74-21 bipartisan vote, is intended to allow companies to share information about cybersecurity threats with the government. However, critics, particularly those in the tech industry, say the bill will extend the surveillance capabilities of government intelligence agencies while doing little to prevent hacks.

The bill has already passed the House of Representatives. The White House backs CISA, and it will likely sign the bill into law.

Prior to the bill’s passage on Tuesday, senators fought for amendments that would reign in CISA and offer more privacy protections. However, all amendments intended to increase the removal of personal information from threats failed. Senators adopted a 10-year sunset clause for the bill, though privacy advocates like Senator Al Franken hoped the bill would expire in six.

Though the bill was expected to pass, today’s vote was a huge setback for tech’s lobbying efforts on surveillance issues. In the wake of the revelations of former government contractor Edward Snowden, large tech companies have pushed the government to curtail surveillance practices, most recently with the passage of the USA FREEDOM Act.
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
12. Ben Bernanke Identifies The Global Economy's Largest Problem: Bankers' Short Term Memories
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 06:54 AM
Oct 2015

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS THE CENTRAL BANKING QE PONZI SCHEME....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/10/28/ben-bernanke-identifies-the-global-economys-largest-problem-bankers-short-term-memories/

Tim Worstall: I’m not sure that I actually agree with this identification of the global economy’s largest problem by Ben Bernanke. The pointing to it as “a” problem in the short to medium term, yes, that I’ll go along with. But I’m afraid that I have a rather different problem in mind for the largest one we face. Still, Bernanke’s the economist, not me, so perhaps we should take his idea as being correct. And what he’s really saying here is that our major problem is that the collective memory of the banking industry just seems to be too short:

Speaking at an event organised by the Spectator in London, Mr Bernanke said: “One thing that puzzles me a bit is that we thought we learned in the Nineties that currency mismatches – that borrowing in dollars and then lending in whatever the local currency was – was a dangerous thing.”

Emerging markets enjoyed huge capital inflows after central banks in advanced economies such as the Fed slashed rates and investors sought higher returns.

However, the International Monetary Fund has warned that tighter US monetary policy could trigger a wave of emerging market corporate defaults and a fresh credit crunch as the dollar strengthens.

Mr Bernanke said: “It’s probably the most meaningful financial risk right now, the emerging market situation.”


I can certainly see that as being a large problem. The Fed did indeed slash interest rates, as they should have done, and investors did indeed go off searching for yield. That was rather the point of QE in fact, to get investors going off searching for yield by moving out along the risk curve. So, in the short term, mission accomplished because investors did exactly what the central bank wanted them to do. However, there’s been rather a lot of leakage of this into those emerging markets. And that’s not so comfortable. For the problem is that the borrowings are generally in US dollars while the earnings to repay them, even if not the denomination of the loans themselves, are in the local currencies. And in many of those emerging economies the earnings were between somewhat and largely dependent upon the commodity boom as China developed. So far, nothing wrong with this. However, now we’ve got a combination of China’s growth slowing and also various commodity production schemes coming on line, increasing supply. Increasing supply just as demand growth starts to falter. The result has been what we’ve seen, collapsing commodity prices.

That means in turn lower earnings from said commodities: and as this is happening the currencies of many of those emerging economies are falling against the US dollar, as they would. So, we get a double whammy: lower earnings in currencies that are worth less, against which the value of the debt isn’t going down at all. And that could indeed be a serious problem. But this is just an example of, a symptom of, what might be a larger problem for us free market types. For we generally think that people learn from past mistakes and don’t do them again. Thus we don’t, say, have to worry about people over stoking the US housing market as the memories of how that played out are still fresh. On the other hand there’s the financial markets meme that banking mistakes aren’t repeated until all the people who remember the last one have retired. At which point someone rediscovers the perpetuum mobile and off we all go into another bubble and crash.

So what Bernanke is really pointing to is that in the 90s we really did learn that currency mismatches in lending can be rather dangerous. But only 20 years later we seem to have the same mistake looming. And that’s not comforting for the free market types like me. Because it means that finance is a whole lot dumber than we thought it was: if the institutional memory is that short then it must be
. So, not a comforting thought. And one that leads to the conclusion that perhaps more risk oversight is needed. Not, by the way, on Wall Street or in the City. They can take care of themselves and the amounts outstanding aren’t of systemic importance to them. But in those developing countries, perhaps more of an eye should be kept on “hard currency” borrowing than has been so far.

As to what I do think is our largest problem it’s that, despite the stunning success in poverty reduction, at the end of this year still a little under 10% of humanity will be stuck in the peasant destitution of absolute poverty. That strikes me as the world’s greatest problem for moral if no other reasons. Policy should be devoted, as far as it can be, to dealing with this and all other issues come behind it in the queue.


My latest book is "The No Breakfast Fallacy, why the Club of Rome was wrong about us running out of resources." Amazon and Amazon.co.uk. $6.99 and relevant prices in other currencies.
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
13. What the Steve Jobs Movie Won’t Tell You About Apple’s Success
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:00 AM
Oct 2015
http://ineteconomics.org/ideas-papers/blog/what-the-steve-jobs-movie-wont-tell-you-about-apples-success

Mariana Mazzucato is Professor in the Economics of Innovation at the Science Policy Research Unit of the University of Sussex. Her widely-acclaimed book, The Entrepreneurial State: debunking public vs. private sector myths, reveals the critical role that we, the taxpayers, play in the creation of the most exciting innovations of our time through publicly-funded investment. (The new U.S. edition hits the shelves October 27th). Mazzucato debunks common myths about how innovation works and shapes a new narrative on how to grow a robust and inclusive economy. Think that iPhone in your pocket is simply a product of Silicon Valley magic? Think again! (Join Mazzucato in New York for a talk and conversation with Time Magazine’s Rana Foroohar and The New School’s Mark Setterfield on October 28).

Lynn Parramore: We constantly hear that anything to do with government is incompetent and inefficient. Yet as you show, many of the industries and products that make our lives better wouldn’t exist without government-funded research. The whole process of economic growth is hugely interdependent with governmental action. What about something like the iPhone? Is it a product Silicon Valley magic and the genius of Steve Jobs? Or is there more to the story?

Mariana Mazzucato: Economists have recognized that government has a role to play in markets, but only to fix failures, like monopolies, for example. Yet if we look at what governments have done around the world, they have not just stepped in to address failures. They have actually actively shaped and created markets. This is the case in IT, biotech, nanotech and in today’s emerging green economy. Public sector funds have not only supported basic research, but also applied research and even early-stage, high-risk company finance. This is important because most venture capital funds are too short-termist and exit-driven to deal with the highly uncertain and lengthy innovation process.

I often use the iPhone as an example of how governments shape markets, because what makes the iPhone ‘smart’ and not stupid is what you can do with it. And yes, everything you can do with an iPhone was government-funded. From the Internet that allows you to surf the Web, to GPS that lets you use Google Maps, to touch screen display and even the SIRI voice activated system —all of these things were funded by Uncle Sam through the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), NASA, the Navy, and even the CIA!

These agencies are all ’ mission driven’, which matters to their success, including who they are able to hire. The Department of Energy (DoE) was recently run by Steve Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist, who wanted the Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy (ARPA-E) to do for energy what DARPA did for the Internet. Would he have bothered leaving academia to join the civil service just to ‘fix’ markets? Surely not. That’s boring.

LP
: So what Steve Jobs and his team did was not central to the greatness of Apple?

MM: It’s not that Steve Jobs was not a genius—of course he was! But the problem is that the narrative we tell around entrepreneurs like him, Bill Gates or Elon Musk is so unbalanced. We pretend that government at best was important for some infrastructure and basic science behind their empires. We see the new Steve Jobs film, which is based on a 600-page book where not one word mentions any of the public funding behind Apple’s empire. But the real iPhone story — or the story behind biotechnology — reveals a very different narrative in which government-funded research made the most exciting innovations possible. The same could be said of Elon Musk today —Tesla and Space X not only benefit from government-funded basic research through agencies like the DoE and NASA, but they have also, as companies, received high-risk investments by the public sector. Just one example is the $465 million guaranteed loan received by Tesla by the DoE. As recently shown by an LA Times article, the entire Musk empire has received close to $5 billion in direct and indirect support.

Do we hear about that? No. Is that ‘story’ helpful for future innovation? No.

AND DOES APPLE PAY FEDERAL INCOME TAXES? NO!
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
14. Wolf Richter: IBM Discloses SEC Investigation, Plunges to Worst Level since 2010, Even Share Buyback
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:07 AM
Oct 2015
Wolf Richter: IBM Discloses SEC Investigation, Plunges to Worst Level since 2010, Even Share Buybacks Don’t Work Anymore

http://wolfstreet.com/2015/10/27/ibm-plunges-to-lowest-level-since-2010-on-sec-investigation-even-share-buybacks-arent-helping-anymore/

Financial Engineering bites back.

LONG EXPOSE ON HOW HIGH TECH DABBLED IN HIGH FINANCE AND TOOK A LOW BLOW...
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
15. Will Adverse Selection Force ObamaCare into a Death Spiral?
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:17 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/will-adverse-selection-force-obamacare-into-a-death-spiral.html


This post, with its somewhat alarmist headline — I mean, let’s hope it’s alarmist(1) — was prompted by alert reader Jason, who mailed us flagging some important information on Blue Cross/Blue Shield in his home state of North Carolina...But before we get to Jason’s mail, let’s define the term “adverse selection.” Adverse selection is a form of information asymmetry, where sellers and buyers don’t have the same information; for example, a health insurance buyer who knows they need health care, and a health insurance seller who does not know which sellers need health care and which do not. Economics professor Robert Frank explains how an unregulated health insurance market with such asymmetries would play out in the New York Times (2013):

The crux of the matter is what economists call the adverse-selection problem. Uninsured people with pre-existing conditions often face tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket medical costs annually. If insurers charged everyone the same rate, buying coverage would be far more attractive financially for people with chronic illnesses than for healthy people. And as healthy policyholders began dropping out of the insured pool, it would become increasingly composed of sick people, forcing insurers to raise their rates. …. But higher rates make insurance even less attractive for healthy people, causing even more of them to drop out. Before long, coverage would become too expensive for almost everyone.


In other words, a death spiral. ObamaCare’s mandate was supposed to keep enough healthy people in the pool so that the adverse selection problem did not arise(2). (According to the articles cited in the notes to this Wikipedia article on adverse selection, the evidence for adverse selection in the health insurance market is mixed at best(3); ironically, therefore, ObamaCare might end up providing that evidence!) So how’s that working out? Let’s now turn to Jason’s mail (lightly edited):

I’m starting to wonder if there will be a big healthcare system blow up coming soon.


Jason’s interest was piqued by a link that showed Blue Cross/Blue Shield (BCBS) in Illlinois eliminating its most popular individual plan. He goes on:

BCBS in North Carolina is doing the same things in certain counties.


And Blue Cross themselves explain:

In order to address rising health care costs and to continue to provide sustainable insurance for our members, BCBSNC will be revising its individual product offerings for 2016. Effective January 1, 2016, our Blue Advantage and Blue Select plans, which offer our broadest provider networks, will no longer be offered to individual health care consumers in the Charlotte and Triangle areas who purchased their plans since January 1, 2014, as a result of the Affordable Care Act.


(Notice right here how ObamaCare is random with respect to jurisdiction. If you live in the Charlotte and Triangle areas, you go to Pain City; otherwise, you go to Happyville. Yay!)
Jason explains how BCBS affects him:

I basically don’t have a good option. The value plans basically cover nothing, none (yes literally none, zero) of my doctors take it. The local plan is tied to the local hospital network and affiliated doctors and is better, but presents problems as specialists I see for a rare genetic condition aren’t local or covered by either. There isn’t another option either, as I live near Charlotte and most of these specialists are at medical schools, so my only options are at UNC or Duke which don’t take the plans I have to choose from. There are no other real options either. Although there are plans from other insurers they aren’t comprehensive either and don’t cover doctors I need.


(NC readers will remember a post from Dromaius in 2013 on how insurance companies design narrow networks to make sure “consumers” needing specialists don’t sign up for their policies.) Jason’s solution:

I am seriously starting to think that moving might be the only way to get a decent healthcare plan and just might be my best option.


(Wait, I thought Obama said “we were able to deliver on universal health care”? To be fair, if you parse the words, he did just that. To take delivery, you need only leave your home and move somewhere else. Such a deal.) North Carolina’s BCBS has a blog, where they explain their thought process for re-inserting their sucking mandibles “revising” their “individual product offerings:

Why We’re Adjusting Our 2016 ACA Rate Filing

Early on, industry and government officials counted on two assumptions: A healthier mix of customers in the second year (2015), and a leveling-out of medical spending this year following a surge in demand for the initial year. We now have enough data to know that both of these assumptions have not proven true.

Earlier this summer, my colleague Brian Tajlili wrote in a blog post that our ACA customers are reporting even more chronic health conditions than last year, and they’re using a lot of expensive health care services. And he noted that we may need to adjust our filing to reflect a higher increase in order to cover these costs.

Unfortunately, we now know that to be the case. Our claims and expenses are higher than the premiums we are collecting. As we reported last month, the operating losses on our ACA business in 2014 were $123 million — a number that can’t be sustained over time.


And it’s not just BCBS in North Carolina:

Our rate request is consistent with others across the country as reported by The New York Times.


Jason translates how BCBS is “adjusting” its “rate filing”:

They basically say that their customers are needing and getting lots of healthcare and because of this they are losing money so they are jacking up rates. They then say that lots of people are getting low-cost, limited network plans so they decided to take away the option of getting better plans for some people depending on where they live.

(Again, does this sound like Obama’s “universal health care” to you?)


BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! IT'S THE GIFT THAT NEVER STOPS GIVING! SEE LINK

NOTES:

1) Because I’m not a “worse is better” kind of guy.

2) Obama’s demogoguery on the mandate in 2008 was too much even for Krugman. Clinton supported the mandate; and Obama ran Harry and Louise-style ads (the background) against Clinton, opposing it. Naturally, when in office, Obama supported it.

3) “Asymmetric Information in Health Insurance: Evidence from the National Medical Expenditure Survey,” The RAND Journal of Economics, 2001. “A robust prediction of adverse-selection models is that riskier types by more coverage and, on average, end up using more care. We test for unobservables linking health insurance status and health care consumption. We find no evidence of informational asymmetries.”

4) If you squeeze the profit balloon on the policy side, by insisting that those with pre-existing conditions be covered, as ObamaCare does, then the profit balloon expands on the crapification side, and you get narrow networks without specialists and/or limited by geography, high co-pays and deductibles, narrow formularies, and other forms of obfuscation (or, to put it less politely, fraud). We should be seeking to pop the profit balloon in health care, not squeeze it.

[5) Or — anything’s possible — the Tea Party, et al., might actually grow some stones and start doing serious tax resistance, now that the screws are beginning to tighten; interestingly, the ObamaCare statute forbids the IRS from garnishing your wages or putting a lien on you if you don’t pay the tax penalty for not fulfilling the mandate, which sure looks like a set-up to me. (Yes, the IRS can take your refund, but surely that can be gamed.) Another reason 2016 might be more interesting even than the usual Presidential year.
 

Demeter

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Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:20 AM
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(also running out of easily accessible material...down to the gleaning old emails again)

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