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Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 05:27 PM Jun 2020

S&P now only 8% down from the peak, up nearly 40% from the bottom

The recovery has not been "V shaped" but pretty close. I think traders are getting used to COVID-19. I'm still nervous, but will not be pulling money out. During the darkest days, I just had to plug my ears and say la-la-la.

ADP and Moody’s Analytics reported private payrolls fell by another 2.76 million in May. The ADP number was far less than the 8.75 million estimate. Data from the Institute for Supply Management showed the U.S. services sector contracted less than expected, rebounding from an 11-year trough.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/02/stock-market-futures-open-to-close-news.html
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progree

(10,864 posts)
3. Hopefully investors will be able to swallow vastly higher P/E ratios than those before the crisis
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jun 2020

when 2nd quarter earnings come out. The P/E ratios were already way high by historic standards. Likewise the market cap to GDP ratio. And that while the stock market may have made a nearly V shaped recovery so far, the actual economy -- and earnings -- will be much slower to recover and will take years to reach their Q4 2019 level.

Along with a wave of corporate and municipal bankruptcies, and vast cutbacks in state and local spending.

Minnesota's $1.5 billion budget surplus turned into a $2.4 billion deficit almost overnight. The $2.4 billion deficit will soon be seen as "the good ol' days".

And when the endless supply of stimulus spending and federal reserve lending $trillions to corporations -- what sent the market back up -- eventually and inevitably starts winding down.

It ain't over yet.

progree

(10,864 posts)
4. S&P 500 has left "pull back" territory, which was between 5% and 10% down. It's now 4.5%
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jun 2020

below the all-time high

3386   all-time high reached on Feb 19
3232   Monday 6/8/20's close
-4.5%

It is also positive year-to-date for the first time in months (it closed at 3231 on 12/31/19)

progree

(10,864 posts)
5. S&P 500 back in "pullback territory", and also negative again year-to-date
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 04:56 PM
Jun 2020

S&P 500 closing values:

3386   2/19 all-time-high
3207   6/9 Tuesday, today
-5.3% (between 5% and 10% down from the recent peak is a "pullback" )

3231   12/31/19 year-end 2019

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
6. NASDAQ briefly hit 10000 and (I think) closed at a record high
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jun 2020

Often the financial markets ignore the drama going on in politics and the world over all, and they take a more unemotional and rational view. I still wonder about this big market recovery, although not complaining. I was happy to see a little pullback today.

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