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[font size=3]PHILADELPHIA, Aug. 22, 2016 Car emissions is a high-stakes issue, as last years Volkswagen scandal demonstrated. Pressure to meet tightening standards led the carmaker to cheat on emissions tests. But wrongdoing aside, how are automakers going to realistically meet future, tougher emissions requirements to reduce their impact on the climate? Researchers report today that a vehicles cold start at least in gasoline-powered cars is the best target for future design changes.
To find out what vehicles on the road are currently emitting, Drozd and colleagues at the University of California, Berkeley; Carnegie Mellon University; the University of California, San Diego; and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology rented 25 gasoline-powered cars, including two hybrids, from residents in the Los Angeles area. The vehicle ages ranged from 2 to 20 years.
The clearest result was how effective emissions controls have become for organic gases, Drozd says. New vehicles less than 2 years old emitted as little as 1 percent of the total amount of organic gases that a 20-year-old vehicle emitted. Very few studies have tested new cars for these gases.
The researchers also found that almost all emissions in properly functioning, new vehicles came out immediately after starting the cars when their engines were cold. But once new cars warmed up, they had to be driven 100 to 300 miles to match the levels that came out in the first 30 seconds of the engine turning on.
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hunter
(38,311 posts)There's nothing impossible about reworking cities and higher density suburbs to make private automobile ownership entirely unnecessary.
OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)Wouldnt that be wonderful! However, while not strictly impossible, it is essentially impossible.
Even in authoritarian countries, people drive cars:
So, given that you wont get people to give up their cars, whats your fallback position?
hunter
(38,311 posts)Forget the small shit, it's meaningless. As this world economy expands fossil fuel use is increasing. Doesn't matter how much we current one-percenters cut our fossil use.
We must prepare to be toasted.
The only way to stop this is to discover DESIRABLE low energy, zero fossil fuel use, lifestyles that most people will choose to embrace.
One thing I'm certain of, it's just math, is that a purely "renewable" energy society, even a purely nuclear powered society, looks nothing like the high energy industrial society we one percenters now enjoy.
madokie
(51,076 posts)If I remember right its an old beater. In that I feel safe in saying that the 10,000 miles we drove this last year in our 2014 focus produced less overall pollution than the few miles you claim to drive.
discuss
hunter
(38,311 posts)How much carbon dioxide did you spew???
Hint: It's directly related to the amount of gasoline you bought.
compared to what ever you get.
Not to mention that a car built in 2014 has to met a lot stricter emissions than an 80s car does. Your car spews out a lot more nasty gases than our focus even though it passes the emissions test. Those test are age related, in other words a car built 20 or 30 years ago only has to meet the emissions of that model year, not what our 2014 focus does. Because an 80s or 90s car can't and won't
Like I said I'd be comfortable in saying that we spewed out less overall emissions in our car in 10,000 miles as you did in yours in whatever you drove. If you drove much at all that is.
Read the tag on the inside of the drivers door opening for what that particular cars emissions test has to pass