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lexw

(804 posts)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:34 PM Sep 2012

Mysterious 'rotten egg' smell wafts over San Fernando Valley (California)

http://www.dailybreeze.com/latestnews/ci_21508368/mysterious-rotten-egg-smell-wafts-over-san-fernando

I live near the beach (South Bay, CA). I just stepped outside and could smell it faintly. Also, it's been sooooo humid in So Cal this August and September. Right now it feels like Hawaii—so I'm looking for my birth certificate.

Another article I read this morning, said children were gagging in the school yards because it stunk so badly. One child was seen vomiting.

Last I heard it's thought to be coming from the Salton Sea. Some winds picked it up off the stagnant water, and blew our way.
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antiquie

(4,299 posts)
2. Not so sure about the Salton Sea...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:44 PM
Sep 2012

AIR QUALITY OFFICIALS INVESTIGATING WIDESPREAD SULFUR ODORS

Field inspectors with the South Coast Air Quality Management District are in the field today investigating possible causes of widespread sulfur odors.

Since around midnight last night, AQMD has received more than 100 calls reporting a strong, foul rotten egg/sulfur odor. Residents have complained from a very wide area including the Inland Empire and much of the Los Angeles Basin.

Fish kills, algae blooms and other biologic conditions in lakes can cause strong odors. Industrial facilities such as wastewater plants also can cause sulfur odors. At this time AQMD hasn’t confirmed any source as the cause of the widespread odor.

AQMD will issue updated information later in the day if more information is available.

AQMD is the air pollution control agency for Orange County and major portions of Los Angeles, San Bernardino and Riverside counties.


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lob1

(3,820 posts)
3. I live in the San Fernando Valley and I smell nothing, but
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:46 PM
Sep 2012

the SF Valley is no where near the Salton Sea. I don't see how the two can be connected, since we're 150-200 miles apart.

hunter

(38,303 posts)
6. First place to look would be the oil industry...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:13 PM
Sep 2012

... either drilling or refining.

Or maybe we ought to be calling Tommy Lee Jones...



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120461



 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
7. It's horrible outside today, really swampy humid and hot, so I wouldn't know. But.....
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:15 PM
Sep 2012

we aren't anywhere near the Salton Sea.

The map shows reports coming in from the NE SF Valley. I am in the SW part, and it smells fine outside.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
8. LA Times "99.9% sure" it's the Salton Sea....
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:24 PM
Sep 2012
The source of the rotten-egg smell wafting through the Inland Empire and the Los Angeles Basin is most likely the Salton Sea, said Chief Julie Hutchinson, spokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

Hutchinson said the monsoonal moisture being pushed into the area from a storm in Mexico is delivering the pungent odor, which has been so strong that some homeowners have been worried they may have a leaky sewer pipe.

"I'm 99.9% sure it's the Salton Sea,'' Hutchinson said. "It's just a nasty, funky smell from the Salton Sea. … We've had it before.''

Officials with the Southern California Air Quality Management District said they've received hundreds of calls about the sulfur odor and have dispatched investigators to positively identify the source.

...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/09/salton-sea-foul-odor-rotten-eggs.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+lanowblog+(L.A.+Now)

hunter

(38,303 posts)
9. Something really ought to be done about the Salton Sea...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:02 PM
Sep 2012

...whether or not this is the problem today.

Humans made this mess, humans ought to clean it up.

If we can't work our way through a simple "geoengineering" problem like this, it's sort of silly to talk about geoengineering our way out of larger problems like climate change.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
12. I have to agree.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:03 PM
Sep 2012

We can work out the Salton problem, but it's going to take time and effort.....especially the latter. And frankly, if we CAN'T agree on how to fix something small, like the Salton Sea, then isn't it going to be that much harder to fix global warming?

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
15. AQMD still won't commit: email dated September 10, 2012 6:43 PM
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:58 PM
Sep 2012

AIR QUALITY OFFICIALS CONTINUE TO PROBE
SOURCE OF WIDESPREAD SULFUR ODORS


Air quality officials are continuing to investigate the source of a rotten-egg odor reported last night and today across much of Southern California, from the Salton Sea to the San Fernando Valley.

“Several factors indicate that the Salton Sea may have been the source of these odors,” said Barry Wallerstein, executive officer for the South Coast Air Quality Management District (AQMD). “However we do not have any definitive evidence to pinpoint the Salton Sea or any other source yet.”

AQMD deployed field inspectors today to the San Fernando Valley, Long Beach, Colton, San Bernardino, Riverside, Perris, Temecula, Banning, Palm Springs, La Quinta and the Salton Sea in an attempt to locate the source of the odor.

Several sources have reported hot weather and a possible release of bacteria from the bottom of the sea due to winds there. Those conditions could cause strong sulfur odors.

In addition, strong thunderstorm activity in the Salton Sea area and resulting high winds from the southeast could have pushed odors into the Los Angeles basin. However, it is highly unusual for odors to remain strong up to 150 miles from their source, Wallerstein said.

AQMD will collect air samples this evening in several locations throughout the Coachella Valley and at the Salton Sea. An analysis of those samples may provide further evidence of a possible source.

Since midnight last night, AQMD has received about 200 complaints of sulfur- and rotten-egg odors. Most callers were from the Coachella Valley and other portions of Riverside County as well as San Bernardino and Los Angeles counties. Only a few calls came from Orange County.

A strengthening onshore breeze tomorrow may keep any additional odors from spreading as far west as they did today, AQMD officials said.

AQMD is the air pollution control agency for Orange County and major portions of Los Angeles, San Bernardino and Riverside counties.

South Coast
Air Quality Management District
21865 Copley Drive, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
http://www.aqmd.gov
1-800-CUT-SMOG

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
17. Well
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:19 PM
Sep 2012

Thank God it's not an emergency and the air is not poisonous, because nearly 24 hours later they still don't know what is making the smell?

Heck if it was poisonous there would be a lot of dead people already.

So just be thankful whatever it is has not been deadly, so far.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
13. Made me think of my youth, going through the Hazelwood section of Pittsburgh...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:35 PM
Sep 2012

Hazelwood was where the Jones and Laughlin Steel Blast furnaces were located. J&L had two plants in Pittsburgh, on the Southside it had the rolling mills, to roll hot steel into various thicknesses for later use. Across the Monongahela river, sat Hazelwood and the actual Blast furnaces and its unique smell.

Hazlewood ALWAYS smelled like rotten eggs.due to the release of gases when Coke is used to make Iron or Steel. Thus every time I had to go through Hazelwood, you could tell you had entered Hazelwood, not by the roads, the trees, the rivers etc, but by your nose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones_and_Laughlin_Steel_Company

The two plants were connected by the Hot Metal Bridge. Today it is all that remains of the 170 acres of the old J&L Steel Plant (40 Acres in Hazelwood, 130 Acres on Pittsburgh South Side):
http://pghbridges.com/pittsburghE/0588-4475/hotmetal.htm



Please note, this is one of TWO Hot Metal Bridges across the Monongahela river. Downstream US Steel had another one. It is presently closed as that plant is converted to other uses, but it is plan to keep that Hot Metal Bridge for Bicyclists and Pedestrian traffic only.

If you are interested, here are more Pictures of the Hot Metal Bridge from DU2:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/http:/tinyurl.com/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=324x1700

hunter

(38,303 posts)
16. I used to live in a place where the water coming out of the tap smelled like this.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:05 PM
Sep 2012

Taking a shower would stink up the whole house.

After a while you got used to it.

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