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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:29 PM Mar 2013

Duke CEO confirms threat renewables pose to their business model

Duke Explores Rooftop Solar as Panels Slow Electricity Demand, CEO Says
By Jim Polson, Bloomberg
March 1, 2013

NEW YORK CITY -- Duke Energy Corp., the largest U.S. utility owner, may expand into rooftop solar as wider use of photovoltaic panels by customers cuts into demand for electricity in states including California, Chief Executive Officer Jim Rogers said.

Rooftop panels are gaining popularity as the industry faces “anemic” growth in power demand that may redefine the traditional utility business model, as this growth makes it difficult to predict long-term energy demand, Rogers said at an analyst meeting in New York today.

“It is obviously a potential threat to us over the long term and an opportunity in the short term,” Rogers said in an interview after the meeting.

“If the cost of solar panels keeps coming down, installation costs come down and if they combine solar with battery technology and a power management system, then we have someone just using us for backup,” he said.


http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2013/03/duke-explores-rooftop-solar-as-panels-slow-electricity-demand-ceo-says?cmpid=SolarNL-Saturday-March2-2013

This confirms the statements I've made regarding the different roles that renewables and nuclear play in changing the fossil oriented system. Nuclear preserves the economic model based on large-scale fossil generation, renewable energy destroys it.
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Duke CEO confirms threat renewables pose to their business model (Original Post) kristopher Mar 2013 OP
Maybe it's time to remodel. immoderate Mar 2013 #1
I like that! nt kristopher Mar 2013 #5
key... handmade34 Mar 2013 #2
Well put. DLnyc Mar 2013 #3
Why its not much of an economic opportunity for them cprise Mar 2013 #4
That is it in a nutshell. kristopher Mar 2013 #6
It is also why they attack renewables in every public venue. nt kristopher Apr 2013 #7

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
2. key...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:35 PM
Mar 2013

"Duke has capital available to fund an expansion into rooftop solar if the company decides to pursue the market, (CEO) Good said. “Our thinking hasn’t matured to the point that we’re actively pursuing anything.”

seems the MATURE (and wise) people amongst us understand the need for progressive alternative energies...

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
3. Well put.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:37 PM
Mar 2013

It seems like the gates might be starting to open on a flood of new solar power.

As you say, the model is quite different from either fossil or nuclear generation: Unlimited supply and very low entry barrier versus limited supply and very high entry barrier.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
4. Why its not much of an economic opportunity for them
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 04:10 AM
Mar 2013

Its simple:

Centralized generation is like having a toll booth. Its exceedingly hard for a competitor toll booth to spring up where you already are.

Small scale generation is more about manufacturing and buying commodity hardware, similar to computers or hand tools. Competition remains high and profit margins keep going lower as consumers become more attuned to comparison shopping.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
6. That is it in a nutshell.
Sat Mar 9, 2013, 05:38 PM
Mar 2013

There are actually 5 criteria that determine the degree of openness in any given market. Centralized thermal generation has none of the 5, while distributed generation has the potential to satisfy all 5.

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