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Related: About this forumCoal Company CEO Threatens To Sue EPA For ‘Lying’ About Climate Change
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/06/10/3447370/murray-coal-warming-is-fake/Robert E. Murray, of Murray Energy Corp., speaks during a news conference Tuesday, Aug. 7, 2007.
The owner of the largest independent coal producer in the U.S. is threatening to sue the Environmental Protection Agency over its new regulations on carbon emissions from existing coal plants, saying the agency has been lying about the existence of global warming, and that the earth is actually getting colder.
In an extended profile published last month, Murray Energy Corp. founder Robert Murray told WV Executive that the EPAs claims that climate change exists violates the federal Data Quality Act, which requires agencies to rely on quality, objective information to inform its decisions.
Under the act, they are obligated to tell the truth, and they are not telling the truth about global warming, Murray reportedly said. They are not telling hardly any truth about the science. The earth has actually cooled over the last 17 years, so under the Data Quality Act, theyve actually been lying about so-called global warming.
Murray added, This lawsuit will force them to not just take data from the environmentalists and publish it, as they have been doing, but to review that data and make sure its accurate.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I just can't wait for Murray's "evidence" to be presented.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)got a lot of miners killed at one of his mines a few years back?
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Poor, poor coal CEO.
Seriously, though, I hope he sues and pisses away millions of dollars in legal fees.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)These people love to obfuscate the difference between weather and climate, the latter being long-term. Within an overall long-term warming trend, there will be year-to-year fluctuations. It's not a smooth line going up (like, say, U.S. population); it's a jagged line that goes up and down from year to year but in the long term trends upward. In statistical terms, it's a random walk with an upward drift.
The deniers choose their time period to make their point by starting with 1998. That year was one of the upward spikes on the line (generally thought to have been caused by an El Nino event). It's as if, today, I found an unusually hot day in April, started the analysis then, and showed a cooling trend from that baseline, thus "disproving" the hoax that average temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere increase from April to June.
This scam has been debunked for years. CBS did this good analysis in 2009. Key point:
It's also worth noting that, in 2009, the skeptics were basing their argument on changes since 1998. If they were being consistent, they would today be using the same lookback period -- but that would mean they'd lose 1998. That's why we see this coal company guy now pulling a 17-year period out of the air. They'll keep adjusting their lookback period so that they can start with 1998, because that helps them distort the overall trend.