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applegrove

(118,600 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:13 PM Sep 2012

"Killing of US ambassador is likely to have been planned"

Killing of US ambassador is likely to have been planned


http://www.independent.co.uk/hei-fi/news/killing-of-us-ambassador-is-likely-to-have-been-planned-8139005.html?origin=internalSearch

"SNIP.......................................

The killings of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff were likely to have been the result of a security breach, i can reveal.

Chris Stevens had been back in the country only a short while and the details of his visit to Benghazi, where he and his staff died, were meant to be confidential, but American officials believe the attack was planned. The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".

Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

According to diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions would be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

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"Killing of US ambassador is likely to have been planned" (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2012 OP
I think this is speculation. HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #1
I don't agree. I'm assuming the USA has intelligence contacts all over applegrove Sep 2012 #2
Intelligence contacts, for sure. HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #4
Consider the source brush Sep 2012 #3
The attack was military style RobertEarl Sep 2012 #5
well no shit bloods vs crips Sep 2012 #6
Not just bad luck you say? nt bemildred Sep 2012 #7
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. I think this is speculation.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:07 PM
Sep 2012

I can't imagine "sensitive" documents and lists of Libyan contacts would be held at a consulate, rather than a more secure embassy. Consulates generally only handle routine paperwork-requests for visas and the like.

applegrove

(118,600 posts)
2. I don't agree. I'm assuming the USA has intelligence contacts all over
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:13 PM
Sep 2012

the place in Bengazi trying to make sure al Qaeda doesn't grow there. I would think that would be the main thing they are doing there right now. I would put it ahead of trade in importance to the American foreign policy in Lybia.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. Intelligence contacts, for sure.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:26 PM
Sep 2012

But not at a consulate. Consulates aren't as secure as an embassy, often they're just an office. And they aren't US soil, as an embassy. Any local official can drum up a pretext to search a consulate-they cannot at an embassy. If there was sensitive papers and intelligence being stored at the consulate, then the ambassador and staff were stupid and reckless.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. The attack was military style
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:35 PM
Sep 2012

Libya is still in a civil war. It is surprising security was so lax.

Still, from all indications the attack was by trained and heavily weaponed soldiers. Only a large group of Marines would be able to turn back such an attack.

This was no hastily organized plain-citizen revolt. And we will never know just how much intelligence was lost.

 

bloods vs crips

(17 posts)
6. well no shit
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 05:35 PM
Sep 2012

I can't believe the administration and the media is giving the video producer so much airtime. It's obviously a bogus political ploy to keep everyone from questioning our stupid ME foreign policy. Why haven't people been spending more time in intelligence briefings, who knew about the security threats before the attacks, why was Amb. Stevens going to meetings without a single member of a security detail?

And finally, why is all of this happening if Obama was supposed to be able to change the narrative in ME relations due to his "unique" background?

Thankfully journalists are finally starting to ask a few decent questions.

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