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King_David

(14,851 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:27 AM Oct 2015

Santander seeks Israeli startup investments

Senior officials from the Santander Group, one of Europe's largest banks, visited Israel this month to look for potential investments in Israeli startups, sources inform “Globes”. According to experts, the group’s investment fund, Santander InnoVentures, is expected to invest in at least one Israeli startup by the end of the year.



http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-santander-seeks-israeli-startup-investments-1001069744

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Santander seeks Israeli startup investments (Original Post) King_David Oct 2015 OP
Europe is investing in Israel? King_David Oct 2015 #1
From what I understand, they're looking in Israel and not the settlements, so no BDS... Little Tich Oct 2015 #2
BDS don't differentiate between Israel or settlements King_David Oct 2015 #3
Precisely why leftynyc Oct 2015 #4
almost sounds sort of like a threat or something azurnoir Oct 2015 #7
Sounds more like an astute observation . King_David Oct 2015 #8
Thanks you for admitting that it's true azurnoir Oct 2015 #9
Do you think supporting BDS will help or hinder someone's electability in the USA? King_David Oct 2015 #10
It's sounds like you are saying that these politicians might lose the jewish vote. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #15
Of course it's true leftynyc Oct 2015 #24
Facts are not threats leftynyc Oct 2015 #23
BDS does indeed differentiate between Israel and the settlements. Little Tich Oct 2015 #5
BDS movement did those things King_David Oct 2015 #6
equating BDS with anti-semitism is trying to stifle debate. bumprstickr Oct 2015 #11
Really ? King_David Oct 2015 #12
so one of the founders becomes an entire movement? bumprstickr Oct 2015 #14
If only you were right, King_David Oct 2015 #16
thanks for the welcome. bumprstickr Oct 2015 #20
How many anti-Palestinian incidents have happened within the zionist movement, dave? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #29
.... King_David Oct 2015 #30
Yes. Silence. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #31
A movement is composed of many people who share certain specific values or ideals oberliner Oct 2015 #21
if i say I am a democrat, does that mean my views are identical bumprstickr Oct 2015 #22
When your leaders leftynyc Oct 2015 #25
there are many leaders/spokespersons for these groups. bumprstickr Oct 2015 #27
It's not just the leaders I would denounce leftynyc Oct 2015 #33
It means you align with the ideals of the Democratic Party oberliner Oct 2015 #26
who is the true face on the Democrats? bumprstickr Oct 2015 #28
Right now it's Barack Obama leftynyc Oct 2015 #32
Foreign ministers petition EU to urge labelling of settlement products Little Tich Oct 2015 #17
No it doesn't oberliner Oct 2015 #18
Palestinian boycott of Israeli settlement goods starts to bite Little Tich Oct 2015 #19
Great to know. I was looking for a new bank. 6chars Oct 2015 #13

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
2. From what I understand, they're looking in Israel and not the settlements, so no BDS...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:24 AM
Oct 2015

Anyway, I wish them luck, because while it's not hard to find a good startup in Israel, it could be hard to choose only one.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
3. BDS don't differentiate between Israel or settlements
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:11 AM
Oct 2015

That bigoted BDS organization boycotts American Jews.

Recently they would not allow an American citizen to play at a reggae concert - because he was a Jew.
( decision was reversed after an outcry) but the bigoted BDS movement at the same concert allowed an extremely homophobic anti - gay performance to go ahead.

BDS bigotry is again and again proven to be against Jews and not Israel and has nothing to do with the occupation- recently this movement left a severed pigs head in a Jewish Kosher supermarket in South Africa
... It's all about Jews with this BDS movement... That's what motivates their supporters.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. Precisely why
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 10:10 AM
Oct 2015

you wont see ANY American politician embrace bds. It would be suicide for their career.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
10. Do you think supporting BDS will help or hinder someone's electability in the USA?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:02 PM
Oct 2015

In democratic strongholds like NYC or Miami or Los Angeles or Chicago in particular ?


( you going to echo and cut and paste and repeat all my brilliant posts ? LOL)

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
15. It's sounds like you are saying that these politicians might lose the jewish vote.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:24 PM
Oct 2015

It almost sounds like you are saying that these Americans have a dual loyalty.



Curious...
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. Of course it's true
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:14 AM
Oct 2015

Can you name one elected official in the US that has even met with that odious group, let alone take on their cause?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. Facts are not threats
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:12 AM
Oct 2015

One day you're going to just admit that Americans strongly support Israel, as do our elected representatives and embracing the odious bds after proving they are against Jews and not just Israelis is not something any of them are stupid enough to do. I know it pains you but those are the facts.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
5. BDS does indeed differentiate between Israel and the settlements.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:30 AM
Oct 2015

I don't know of any Western government or company that boycotts Israel, all the actual BDS is against the settlements and the occupation. It's not about bigotry at all - it's all about the settlements and the occupation. And for those examples, I think you misrepresent why the Jewish American singer was barred - he had said some very negative things about the Gaza flotilla that could be seen as supporting the occupation.

I have no idea who thought it was a good idea to put heads of pigs in the kosher section, or why.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
6. BDS movement did those things
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:52 PM
Oct 2015

The BDS movement thought it a good idea.

Besides Reykavik city council, and the traditional Arab League boycott of Israel which government is part of the BDS movement?

 

bumprstickr

(74 posts)
11. equating BDS with anti-semitism is trying to stifle debate.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:36 PM
Oct 2015

BDS means sanctions aimed at stopping Israeli settlements.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
12. Really ?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:08 PM
Oct 2015

The founder of the BDS movement disagrees... BDS aims for the complete destruction of Israel .

BDS banned an American Jew from performing at a reggae concert recently but allowed an anti gay homophobia scum to perform.

That's just a recent example but many many more.

 

bumprstickr

(74 posts)
14. so one of the founders becomes an entire movement?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:03 PM
Oct 2015

A movement is composed of many people. Are all white Christians defined by Kim Roberts or Josh Duggar?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
16. If only you were right,
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:32 PM
Oct 2015

But there have been way too many anti Jewish incidents by this movement.


Welcome to DU.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
29. How many anti-Palestinian incidents have happened within the zionist movement, dave?
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 06:29 PM
Oct 2015

Want to take that one on?

I bet I'll be met with the sounds of silence.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. A movement is composed of many people who share certain specific values or ideals
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 05:04 PM
Oct 2015

The BDS movement values and ideals are quite clearly articulated on the movement's website.

 

bumprstickr

(74 posts)
22. if i say I am a democrat, does that mean my views are identical
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 05:36 PM
Oct 2015

to all democrats?

plug in any word for democrat, like republican, or Christian, or atheist and ask the same question.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
25. When your leaders
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:16 AM
Oct 2015

are not representing your interests and you feel they are hurting a larger cause, you either get rid of the leaders, denounce them, or you find another way to express your cause.

 

bumprstickr

(74 posts)
27. there are many leaders/spokespersons for these groups.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:21 PM
Oct 2015

which do YOU follow and which do YOU denounce in any group that you belong to?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
33. It's not just the leaders I would denounce
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 04:49 AM
Oct 2015

It's the members that don't speak out against he egregious behavior or views of their leaders. I haven't seen one thing in the bds movement that deserves respect. I'm not sure that answers your question but you're not being clear.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. It means you align with the ideals of the Democratic Party
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:39 AM
Oct 2015

Otherwise what is the point of calling yourself a Democrat?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
32. Right now it's Barack Obama
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 04:47 AM
Oct 2015

I have no problem with any of those three you mentioned being our face. They'd all be stellar candidates.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
17. Foreign ministers petition EU to urge labelling of settlement products
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:50 PM
Oct 2015

Source: The Guardian, 17 April 2015

Letter to Federica Mogherini comes amid pressure for punitive policies targeting Israel’s settlements on Palestinian land

Foreign ministers from 16 EU countries – including the UK – have signed a letter to the EU’s foreign policy head, Federica Mogherini, requesting she expedite moves to ensure the clear labelling of goods produced in illegal Israeli settlements and sold
in Europe.

The letter, written earlier this week – and leaked to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz on Thursday, comes amid mounting pressure from ministers in a number of European countries to advance punitive policies targeting Israel’s settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

That pressure has been mounting since the collapse last year of the US-sponsored peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, and amid concern that a new coalition government being assembled by the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, will have no interest in advancing a two-state solution.

Among the signatories of the letter are France, Britain, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Sweden, Malta, Austria, Ireland, Portugal, Slovenia, Hungary, Finland, Denmark, The Netherlands and Luxembourg – with only Germany’s foreign minister among the five biggest European states not endorsing it.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/16/foreign-ministers-petition-eu-to-urge-labelling-of-settlement-products

I wouldn't want to include the Arab League in the BDS - it's a completely different boycott that came into being for a different reason.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. No it doesn't
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 10:48 PM
Oct 2015

In 2005, Palestinian civil society issued a call for a campaign of boycotts, divestment and sanctions (BDS) against Israel until it complies with international law and Palestinian rights.

http://www.bdsmovement.net/

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
19. Palestinian boycott of Israeli settlement goods starts to bite
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:38 PM
Oct 2015

Source: The Guardian, 29 June 2010

Campaign to clear supermarket shelves of West Bank settlement wares forces Israeli factories to cut production

Israeli factories based in settlements on the West Bank have been forced to cut back production as a growing Palestinian boycott movement begins to take effect.

The boycott, endorsed by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, was given further momentum this week when a campaign to clear supermarket shelves of produce originating in settlements was rolled out in Ramallah.

"The objective is to ensure the Palestinian market is free of Israeli settlement produce by the end of this year," the Palestinian prime minister, Salam Fayyad, said at the launch of the Store to Store campaign at the Alameen supermarket.

A team of volunteers will inspect 66,000 stores across the West Bank in the coming weeks, awarding certificates and window stickers to those free of settlement produce.


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jun/29/palestinian-boycott-israeli-settlement-goods

Most people, even Palestinians, are able to see the difference between Israel and and the settlements. Why can't you?
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