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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:25 PM Mar 2016

Trump wins over AIPAC audience with strong pro-Israel stance

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.710188



'President Obama is the worst thing to happen to Israel,' Trump says to massive applause at AIPAC gathering, vowing to pressure Palestinians to accept Israel as Jewish state and Jerusalem as its capital.
...

Trump delivered broadsides against his likely rival in the general election, Hillary Clinton, calling her a “total disaster” and blaming her for last year’s Iran nuclear deal. The line earned laughter and applause, although Clinton’s speech, earlier in the day, was well received.

Trump’s biggest applause line was when he began a sentence, “President Obama, in his final year – yay!”



Useful reminder that AIPAC is part of the Dick Cheney wing of American politics.
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Trump wins over AIPAC audience with strong pro-Israel stance (Original Post) geek tragedy Mar 2016 OP
Donald Trump’s AIPAC Speech Gets Muted Response oberliner Mar 2016 #1
Standing ovation for his comment about Obama. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #5
These Jews are right-wing? King_David Mar 2016 #6
AIPAC do not support the Democratic Party. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #8
Like a broken record stuck on a one track King_David Mar 2016 #9
The AIPACers cheered wildly for Trump's attacks on Obama. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #10
Actually not so , supporting Israel is a Democratic Party cause... King_David Mar 2016 #11
The two are not mutually exclusive. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #12
No, that's not true , King_David Mar 2016 #14
Whatever walkout there was, was negligible. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #15
Can you link up some AIPAC talk about Palestinians? King_David Mar 2016 #16
sure. here's where AIPAC discusses Palestinian culture geek tragedy Mar 2016 #17
When you say "culture " are you talking about things like LGBTQ attitude and rights King_David Mar 2016 #18
get back to me when AIPAC shows a genuine interest in the human rights of Palestinians. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #19
One track repeating record .... Skip and repeat... King_David Mar 2016 #20
The AIPAC crowd cares more about Palestinian Rights than Israel haters.... shira Mar 2016 #23
Did you watch Yotam Polizer's speech about IsraAID's work in helping Syrian refugees? oberliner Mar 2016 #7
Collectively they are right wing and prefer Trump to Obama. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #13
Your values ? King_David Mar 2016 #21
No, they're not. But anti-Israel advocates are extreme Rightwing... shira Mar 2016 #22
OK I get the teleprompter jab PATRICK Mar 2016 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #3
Drop Dead, Troll. johnp3907 Mar 2016 #4
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
1. Donald Trump’s AIPAC Speech Gets Muted Response
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:30 PM
Mar 2016

“I didn't come here tonight to pander to you about Israel”

Seeking to calm worries about his scant foreign policy credentials, Republican presidential front runner Donald Trump used his turn before the United States’ largest pro-Israel group to offer his view for the Middle East. He did himself few favors, often appearing to contradict himself and at times sounding just like the politicians he lambastes.

Trump earned a muted response from the bipartisan audience at the annual confab of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. He delivered a carefully prepared speech off a teleprompter, breaking with a past promise to never use the devices. After opening with a pledge not to “pander” to the crowd, Trump did just that, dramatically altering his tone and policy toward Israel from what he has been espousing on the campaign trail.

http://time.com/4267086/donald-trump-aipac-speech-israel/

Reminder, AIPAC is comprised of people from across the American political spectrum.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Standing ovation for his comment about Obama.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:51 PM
Mar 2016

AIPAC is comprised of rightwing war-mongering assholes from across the political spectrum.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
6. These Jews are right-wing?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:12 PM
Mar 2016

Trump is right wing, these Democratic Party supporting Jews are not !

These Jews...
They want lower taxes for the rich?
Do not believe in LGBTQ rights?
Want smaller government?
Anti Union?
Anti Abortion?
They wanna cut welfare ?
HUH ??

King_David

(14,851 posts)
9. Like a broken record stuck on a one track
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:17 PM
Mar 2016

Meanwhile Democrats support of Israel is more than double that of Democrats support of Palestinians ( a measly 23%)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. The AIPACers cheered wildly for Trump's attacks on Obama.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:58 PM
Mar 2016

They are a foul right wing organization comprised of rightwing war mongers and racists. It is to their utter disgrace that so-called liberals pander to these Dick Cheneyesque shitheels.

Supporting Israel is a rightwing cause. And the love the AIPACers had for a fascist piece of slime like Trunp--and the hate they have for President Obama--makes complete sense.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:29 AM
Mar 2016

Donald Trump is more popular with the Israel Lobby than Barack Obama is. Nuff said.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
14. No, that's not true ,
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:39 AM
Mar 2016

There was a protest and walkout by Jewish leaders at the AIPAC fest when Trump spoke.

Here is Oberliners post, best you read before repeating for hat nonsense....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=126312

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. Whatever walkout there was, was negligible.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:42 AM
Mar 2016

Trump talks about Muslims the way AIPACers talk about Palestinians. It's a good fit.

That, and they share a war with Iran and a diplomatically isolated US as goals.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
16. Can you link up some AIPAC talk about Palestinians?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:47 AM
Mar 2016

Your talk on Israel seems far worse to me than anything I have ever heard us American Jews from AIPAC say about Palestinians- ever.... And completely out of sync with any Democratic Party leader .

King_David

(14,851 posts)
18. When you say "culture " are you talking about things like LGBTQ attitude and rights
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:26 AM
Mar 2016

And women rights and treatment in the Palestinian statelets such as Gaza?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. get back to me when AIPAC shows a genuine interest in the human rights of Palestinians.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:40 AM
Mar 2016

Or even acknowledges the basic humanity of Palestinians.

The AIPAC crowd threw a major hissy fit when Obama had the audacity to talk about the suffering of Palestinian children.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
20. One track repeating record .... Skip and repeat...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:14 PM
Mar 2016

That us diametrically opposite of Democratic Party principle on Israel.

Sure you can support anyone in this party including Obama who says absolutely nothing similar to the visceral hate you display toward Israel, here in DU?

It sure isn't Democratic Party principle- at all.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
23. The AIPAC crowd cares more about Palestinian Rights than Israel haters....
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

And by a mile.

In comparison to the anti-Israel movement, AIPAC is extremely liberal.

The anti-Israel movement largely consists of leftwing fascists, neo-nazis, white supremacists, and holocaust deniers who support terror.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Did you watch Yotam Polizer's speech about IsraAID's work in helping Syrian refugees?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:17 PM
Mar 2016

That speaker also received a standing ovation.

AIPAC has members who are conservative Republicans and members who are liberal Democrats and everything in between.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
21. Your values ?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

Your "values "on Israel are not shared by the Democratic Party....
Who are you referring to as when you say "our values "?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
22. No, they're not. But anti-Israel advocates are extreme Rightwing...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:46 PM
Mar 2016

They nearly all consist of either Leftwing Fascists, Holocaust Deniers, White Supremacists or neo-Nazis who support terrorism against Jews.

And they couldn't give a shit about Palestinian Human rights.

I can't think of a Western movement more vile and disgusting than the anti-Israel one.

It's hardly debatable.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
2. OK I get the teleprompter jab
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:34 PM
Mar 2016

So between the Haaretz and Time Inc. portrayal what ACTUALLY happened and does it really matter so long as AIPAC chooses not to destroy either one? The contradictions seem to point easily to source prejudice.

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