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As the kidnapping disappearance of three young Israeli settlers enters its first week without any trace of them, politics, repercussions and reactions have begun to take center stage. How will it affect the nearly dead peace process? How will it affect the internal debate in Israel? How will it influence Palestinian politics and scheduled elections?The big mystery that stands to sway a number of answers to these questions is the identity of the kidnappers. There are at least two theories. The more likely scenario is that the operation was carried out by a small, well-organized and tight-knit group not directly connected to any of the well-known Palestinian factions. The prospect that renegade or unorganized groups might become more effective has been a worry for Israel, which has succeeded in subduing the major Palestinian factions, but is well-aware of the high level of discontent among Palestinians. To put this issue in perspective, it helps to know that the operation that ended in the kidnapping of the Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit was not carried out exclusively by Hamas, although it later was able to lay claim to and benefit from it.
From a political perspective, it is difficult to imagine in the post-Palestinian reconciliation period that Hamas political bureau would approve such an operation, knowing that it would bring pain to the movement and its leadership. If Hamas had any desire to be involved in such a high-profile act, it is unlikely it would have accepted a reconciliation deal largely on the terms of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas has publicly denied responsibility for the kidnapping, despite Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's unproven accusation that it is behind it.
On the other hand, it is possible that a renegade element within Hamas or its military wing, which is unhappy with the reconciliation effort, could have carried out such a daring operation to shuffle the cards and engage the movement.
Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/06/israel-palestine-kidnapping-settlers-hamas-abbas-hebron.html#ixzz35TIsy7n0
King_David
(14,851 posts)Kidnapping 3 Jewish children is a good thing in an upside down world.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)due to Bibi.
People are not immune from resentments.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)And to anti "Zionist " narrative in particular ... But the terrorist group Hamas ( soon to be a part of the Palestinian government )
Kidnapped 3 Jewish children.
Once before Hamas bombed a discotheque in Tel Aviv called the Dolfinerium and massacred and murdered scores of Jewish children , intentionally .
That's who we dealing with here.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)change what I pointed out earlier. But it is another talking point for pro-occupation their
government uses..conflating Jews with Israeli Jews.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Israeli Jews are Jews as are Argentinian Jews and Cuban Jews and New Zealand Jews.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)conflate is the work of Israeli talking points to defend the occupation.
King_David
(14,851 posts)With your obsession ...
Defend the occupation ? I think that's stereotyping about us Jews...
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)we'll have to remember that
King_David
(14,851 posts)And trials in court children as adults .
16 yr old is a child .
Jus saying.
Mosby
(16,259 posts)The other two just went to school there.
Did you hear about the 14 yo Israeli boy who was killed by a Syrian missile? Israel responded with strikes against military targets in Syria. The IDF spokesperson said : "The IDF will act decisively in any way and at any time it sees fit, in order to protect the citizens of Israel".
The kid that was killed, Mohammed Karaka, is an Arab Israeli.
Israel looks out for all it's citizens, unlike it's neighbors, who only care about Muslims (of the right type of course,
Sufis and Druze need not apply)
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)which side more..Israel fails miserably. They are primarily responsible for the occupation,
they hold all the important capital...one of the most powerful well financed military,
and they have the US behind them each step of the way...their political capital.
The Palestinians dire situation resonates with citizens around the world but they
do not have the leaders of these nations on board to make the necessary difference.
Israel should be making sure the Palestinians have a viable state..it is in their
best security interests..but they will not do so.
Abbas should utilize the ICC.