call into question the article, the witnesses to the attacks, if the event ever happened, claim that it was the Palestinians doing it and cry with faux-naïf that they should have the right to invade Al Asqa mount and set up shop there.

Unless there is video evidence of settlers and Israeli LEOs/IDF attacking Palestinians, or killing them, then we should just let them off the hook.

...into defending or supporting Hamas terror or PA hate incitement.

Using heavily biased anti-Israel sources does not exactly make for a reliable source.

which are turning out to be accurate?

I remember you didn't believe those stories either.

Perhaps I see a trend with you.

....from sources that frequently fabricate stories.

You and your sources that claimed the Nakba day murders were faked. False.

You and your sources that claimed Mohammed Abu Khdier was burned alive as some sort of 'honor killing." Fake.

You and your sources that claimed the shootings of Jawhar Nasser Jawhar and Adam Abd al-Raouf Halabiya were "Pallywood." Bullshit.

You and your sources that pretend Mohammed al-Dura is alive and weklll after his father had him killed in front of the camera just to make Israel look bad? Blood libelous.

Shira there is absolutely no reason anyone, anywhere, at any time should give a flying fuck what you say, think, or feel. Especially since most of the time, it's clear that it's actually what someone else is saying, thinking, or feeling, and you're just being a mynah bird.

It's why you're frequently ignored here.

Each of those stories I just mentioned, you claimed were false. Made-up. And each time, you were entirely wrong. Your sources were wrong. So there' a lot of irony in you pretending to be some sort of gatekeeper on sources and truth.

When you promulgate conspiracy theories peddled by the likes of Nahum Shahaf, Shira, you lose the ability to be critical of other people's sources.

So, if you have something that counters the Silwanic article shayecanaan posted, then show it. Fact, counter-fact.

If you don't have anything like that, maybe content yourself with starting another OP where you parrot Caroline Glick's blog posts.

You bring up Nahum Shahaf again as my source, but as I've told you repeatedly in the past - I had never heard of him before you brought him up and I still don't care who he is.

That won't stop you from repeating the same shit again in the future, however.

the source just as long as it is accurate.

I'm sure given the correct amount of training and sympathy towards humanity you might even see the light some day.

Should we deny you that opportunity?

...repeatedly on other related topics.

But if a report is from a noncredible source, how do you know if it's accurate?

I ask because you never got back to me here @

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=88689

or here @

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=86998

Gurvitz is a shit-stirrer writing about Judeo Nazis and the Jews' evil racist Talmud that incites anti-semites against all religious or traditional Jews.

His dribblings are indistinguishable from those of David Duke.

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You might consider using non-bigoted sources that aren't supportive of racist terrorist acts against Jews.

Are you accusing fellow DU's of something?

"Member". "Twice Blessed...&quot Google it )

I know all about bigots .

yourself a bigot.

Interesting theory.

Plus several false positives.

That's a Yes/No question.

I remember the Nakba day protesters who were murdered sniper-style, and I remember certain bigots, IMHO, who wrongly claimed that there was a possibility that the Palestinians shot on camera were faking or not dead.

Now that it appears a LEO may have murdered the Palestinian youth that those stories were accurate.

I also remember charges of "Pallywood"...a most heinous word... have been thrown around a lot then and now to insult and delegitimize the Palestinians and the abuse that they take.

So before I would ever believe somebody that attempts to smear the Palestinians at every turn I would give way more credence to the articles and stories they try to destroy with their bigoted hate speech.

There have been many staged scenes and hoaxes from Fatah & Hamas friendly sources.

The blackout hoax in Gaza (with candles in daylight) is one of many examples. This is why I ask if you trust all news coming out of the Palestinian territories.

Yes or No?

Best to trust sources friendly to terrorists like Rasmea Odeh (like Mondoweiss, ElectronicIntifada, and MiddleEastMonitor). Is that correct?

That's a Yes/No too.

The answer was right in front of you, but possibly you didn't bother to read or attempt to digest the content?

Is there any evidence provided of such?

But I think it is at least equally likely to have been an Israeli who is not a settler than one who is. Is there a way to tell someone is a settler just by looking at them?

Shuafat and Al-Tur are both in East Jerusalem. Both are surrounded by settlements. Shuafat was where Mohammed abu Khdier lived, before some settlers decided to set him on fire. Settlers in Jerusalem and throughout the west bank hve a well-documented reign of terror against the Palestinians there.

Now, I suppose that, sure, it could be some asshole popping in from Eilat or Tel Aviv. it also could be that inuit tourist. it Could be the premier of Mongolia. But the evidence we have - Violence against Palestinian in East Jerusalem neighborhoods surrounded by settlements full of people known to violence, and the witnesses say it was settlers - kind of points towards it being settlers.

A sure sign of desperation. The gloves are apparently off....

1) Mondoweiss
2) ElectronicIntifada
3) +972
4) Silwanic
5) Middle East Monitor

I guess the mainstream media is way too pro-Israel. Too rightwing.

Better to use sources here that are friendly to Hamas and PA extremists.

and Palestinian Chronicle, and about a hundred others, lol.

I haven't seen Palestine Chronicle used here recently. But now that you mention it, I'm sure we'll start seeing that POS of a source soon.

Hudson Institute

...or incite hatred with ridiculously false stories like the following do:

Mondoweiss
ElectronicIntifada
Maan
MiddleEastMonitor
Palestine Chronicle

Using those sources of hate is really no different than using KahaneWasRight.com, JihadWatch, or Masada2000. Or Stormfront. All the same rightwing haters....

oh well you are entitled to your opinion

....is not adopting the conquerors line?

I'd have a chance at refuting the story if some other known outlet reported it. Are there any you know of?

Rasmea Odeh was released and her sentence commuted by the Israeli government

Odeh is a known terrorist. Her sister even acknowledged it in an interview, but it's so cute to see people supporting her:

in some bombing

BTW ElderofZyon is the site that invented convoluted CT as to how it was really Palestinians who killed the 2 teenagers in Betunia

that isn't reflective of reality or common sense, IMHO.

Her sister acknowledged it in the video, with Rasmea sitting next to her.

Open and shut.

That's the reality & common sense.

And every anti-Zionist organization connected to BDS supports this unrepentant murderer. Which goes to show how rotten to the core the movement is.

...and I find that most remarkable.

But it's important to bring up when anti-Zio / BDS related sources are utilized here.

I mean it went right over your head without so much as a hint if understanding on your part.

....supports unrepentant terrorists like Rasmea Odeh.

The fact is the BDS anti-Zio movement is pro-terror; supporting terror attacks against Jews.

Full stop.

There is no other rational way of looking at it. There's plenty of other evidence supporting this fact.

....supporting Rasmea Odeh?

I know, probably too difficult a question but try.

...within the BDS/anti-Zio network, no one noteworthy or otherwise, who has come out against the widespread support of Rasmea Odeh throughout the network.

The first anti-Zio BDS'er you find coming out against Odeh will be the 1st.

The neo-nazi party growing in Greece is scary.

BDS growth is scary too.

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purveyors of the anal bomber hoax. Sounds like the sort of stuff that our hasbarado friends would find credible:-

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/anus-gay-terror-video-hoax130712

They're staying the course. But acknowledging the criticism is far more than what Mondoweiss, EI, Maan, MiddleEastMonitor, etc.. would ever do.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute./3158/islam-sodomy

I think they would have considered it outlandish, and for sound reasons.

Similarly, I do not think that Mondoweiss would have opined that the Beitunia slayings were committed by ambulance crews as part of some elaborate "Pallywood" conspiracy theory.

Only very gullible racists believe things like that.

If you think that the Gatestone Institute deserves credit for standing by its outrageous fraud of a story, then good luck to them and to you.

Mondoweiss would also never acknowledge any Palestinian staged scenes or fabricated stories. No haters of Israel would admit to it because bullshit and slander is pretty much all they ever do. They not only support the fakery and bullshit but are very much involved in it. Mondoweiss, EI, Maan, etc... along with Stormfront and company. Same shit from the same miserable wretches.

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The anal bomber story does appear outlandish, but there realy is no evidence it was a hoax.

It's only conjecture by EI. At best, they can say there's reason to believe it may be a hoax, but that's about it. They have no proof.

and child sex offenders. It won't hurt your credibility any, because you have none.

...the murder of Jews. Any day of the week.

Here's the video in question about the fatwa that allegedly led to the underwear bomber....
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/3496.htm

You think the underwear bomber thought it was a hoax?

a nasty little homophobic TV outlet that devotes most of its time to "proving" that all Sunni clerics are/were gay and that all female Sunnis are adulterers or prostitutes.

The man in charge of the operation, Yasser al-Habib, is in danger of losing his TV licence after saying that the rightly-guided caliphs were all gay:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583121/Clerics-hate-sermons-village-hall-Firebrand-broadcast-Middle-East-satellite-channel-Ofcom-powerless-act.html

I like how the source for the alleged forum post is stated as being "The Internet". Great work by MEMRI, they sure do a lot to bolster their credibility.

What you have just done is the equivalent of relying on Stormfront (truly). Even amongst Shias Yasser al-Habib is considered a crackpot.