LOL

That's a vanity site.

That's not a source anyone takes seriously.

I laughed at the fact YOU posted that.

LOL

of comedy.

Funny how all those slip past your radar. Wonder why.

That makes Mondoweiss worse than just about any western Rightwing source that doesn't defend racist attacks against innocents.

Also a big fan of Uganda's "death for homosexuality" law. Marcus and Glick are constant supporters of an oppressive and violent occupation that has been brutalizing and terrorizing innocent people for very nearly five decades.

...that actually kills gays for being who they are.

So in your opinion, Meshoe is still worse than Mondoweiss; is that correct? Or do they both suck equally?

Marcus and Glick don't support or defend brutal assaults or terror against innocents. Yeah, they're rightwing but there's no reason to smear them for stuff they don't believe. Mondoweiss actually supports and defends Hamas terror and brutality against innocents.

Of course to you, Glick and Marcus are worse than Mondoweiss.

I don't defend him now. I'm embarassed that I quoted that POS.

That said, you should be rejecting Mondoweiss and friends just as you do Meshoe b/c Mondoweiss is at least as bad or worse than Meshoe.

But you can't do it.

Why the double-standard?

However, I think it's beyond fucking stupid that you'll suck pap off of Sheldon Adelson's finger at israel Hayom, and cite bullshit figures from UNwatch and palWatch, throw us articles from Meshoe, and Marcus and Glick, and such lovely right-wing hellholes as the Algemeiner and Gatestone Institute, but then get your pants in a wad if someone else cites mondoweiss.

Mondoweiss is at least as credible, if not more so, than any of those.

No go back to your "Man of God" and his gay-hating reeducation camps. Take John Hagee and his Zionists of America "Humanitarian of the Year" award with you.

hamas the terrrorist organization is? That's pretty pathetic.

Except for Israel are among the very worst backward homophobic countries the world has known - worse than Russia

that gets completely ignored around here.

and pretend it's not happening because if Israel isn't responsible for it or can't be blamed for it, it's not happening. And yet they wonder why they truly are a fringe constituency.

....be held responsible for their actions against Gazans. Same WRT Abbas in the W.Bank.

Ergo, no criticism of Hamas or the PA on these matters.

It's best to defend, whitewash, and explain away everything they do to their own civilians. That's moral and just.

Why can't we stupid Liberals understand this? It's so simple...

so freeking tiresome. They have no idea how ridiculous it sounds - twisting themselves into knots in order to make hamas not the terrorist scum they really are.

but I guess that's not saying much. Anything anti-Israel is considered gospel around here. Thankfully it's a very teeny minority of Americans that agree.

Or candidates that would agree with the drek written there and am pretty sure not one of the writers or anyone espousing such views would be accepted to or allowed to remain on any of their campaign teams.

I'm also pretty sure if some of the views expressed by half the people on this group were made publicly by anyone working on any Democratic Party campaign they would be fired immediately and the candidates would distance themselves from such views post haste.

It's pretty funny to watch those thinking the US is one second away from turning its back on Israel to align themselves with the hamas terrorists. It's like watching the birthers think they're one investigator away from getting Pres Obama hauled out of the white house for treason.

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But they can boycott Israeli Matzah at Pesach time. ( if they ever bought it)

Put them both into US Dollars as any investor would have done, and you will see that the TA100 has underperformed the S&P 500 by about 6-7% per year for the last five years - including the most recent year when the USD has strengthened versus the ILS from about 3.52ILS per USD to about 3.92ILS per USD.

To say otherwise would be like claiming that buying gold in rubles was way more profitable than buying it in US Dollars.

that 9% deval in currency terms more than makes up for the couple of notches difference between the two indices.

a better comparison is with the dow jones industrial average, its a broader average than the s and p.

A 1.5 to 1.8 percent per year change in currencies doesn't change my main point, that the Israeli stock market numbers compared to the DJIA show that the Israeli economy is doing extremely well, despite "pundits" crowing about isolation and BDS successes.

There are 30 companies in the DJIA - thus, it is called the Dow 30. There are 500 in the S&P 500. Interesting idea of "broad". Also, the two indices mostly track each other over time.

The TA-100 has underperformed the S&P 500 by about 13-15pc over the last year in USD terms it is down nearly 10 pc.

Since the beginning of 2010, it has underperformed the S&P 500 by about 35pc in USD terms. that is about 7-8 pc per year underperformance for five years.

The relative performance statistics versus the DJIA will be similar. The TA -100 index has not performed well at all versus the U.S. indices.

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First off the number of stocks in an index does not indicate how closely the index represents the broader market. It's standard thought that the DJIA is the broadest measure, followed by the SnP and then NASDAQ.

But let's look at how the TA 100 compares to the SnP:



The TA100 has beaten the SnP over the last decade by a healthy 25.84%, that's a 2.6% difference per year which obviates any currency differences and then some.

Those are the facts.

LOL

....try this one :

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/12/israel-usa-washington-netanyahu-obama-veto-un-palestinians.html

See the empirical data shows that your economy has been doing better that the United States economy for more than a decade.

That doesn't mean that there aren't problems that need to be dealt with like wages and housing, but overall the Israeli business sector has done extremely well, especially compared to most European business sectors.

...and a peaceful settlement between the sides, with secure and recognized borders.

Supporters of this UN bid - whether they know it or not - are calling on Israel to end the occupation no matter the cost. This bid will lead to war.

Everyone knows Palestinian terror factions will become way more emboldened than ever before to attack Israelis from a better vantage point.

More war, great. Let's all support it.

The occupation has to end. There will be war until that happens.

the most extreme elements of Hamas. To reward that group for its terrorist attacks on Israel is cowardly and immoral.

Remove the settlements, ALL OF THEM, and get out of the West Bank.

Recognizing the Palestinian state will only strengthen moderate Palestinians and marginalize the Hamas lunatics.

Any suggestion for a compromise there?

There is room for compromise, but that diminshes by the day as the Israelis settle there.

That could be contentious.

....from offers by Israel that give them nearly everything they're demanding.

The Israelis have NEVER come close to offering a reasonable deal to the Palestinians. The Israelis always demand land in the West Bank, control over Palestinian airspace, totally unacceptable "security" concessions, etc.

....they were demanding.

Not good enough?

Then they shouldn't have rejected both offers w/o so much as a counterproposal.

You'd never see the Kurds or Tibetans doing the same thing.

Israel has no right to take other peoples land and then negotiate a deal based on that stolen land.

Likewise, don't speak for others peoples as if you would know what they would negotiate.

And I guess that you really didn't factor in that you just compared Israel with China in terms of hostile occupying powers.

that certain DUers have WRT other people's land.

And some parts of a East Jerusalem as it has from Gaza and Sinai before.

But they will never be booted.

use that language when they see the writing on the wall.

I know you won't like them, but here are some actual FACTS for you:

1. There still exists International Law stating Jews have a right to settle everywhere west of the Jordan River (including the W.Bank and Gaza).

2. Palestinians never had sovereignty in any part of that region. Ever.

3. There exists NO International Law stating that everything outside the '67 borders is Palestinian Land. Especially not UNSCR 242 which doesn't even mention the Palestinians.

4. UNSCR 242 implies that the land is disputed, as negotiations have to be held in order to mark borders that must be SECURE and RECOGNIZED. They cannot possibly - in any way - be secure or recognized without a peace deal.

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You'll probably deflect from all this like some juvenile middle-schooler rather than attempt to discuss.

Where am I wrong?