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An Oklahoma judge has stirred controversy with decisions not allowing transgender people to change their names legally, claiming they are making the changes for fraudulent purposes, in violation of state law.
Oklahoma County district judge Bill Graves, a former state legislator, also has cited the Bible in disallowing the name changes, The Oklahoman reports. Other judges told the newspaper they routinely grant name changes for people who have undergone or are planning to have gender-reassignment procedures.
In an order last year denying a name change, Graves wrote, A so-called sex-change surgery can make one appear to be the opposite sex, but in fact they are nothing more than an imitation of the opposite sex. A persons DNA stays the same, he wrote, citing a physician he consulted.
To grant a name change in this case would be to assist that which is fraudulent, Graves continued. It is notable that Genesis 1:27-28 states: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth ... The DNA code shows God meant for them to stay male and female.
http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2012/09/16/oklahoma-judge-cites-bible-denying-transgender-name-changes
As a added bonus, Rick Santorum is right about smart people!
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)The body must really be confused when one is named Terry, or Teri, Shawn, or Sean, Lindsey or, or, or, oh lets face it Lindsey is a girls name. So says God. LOL! Sorry Lindsey Graham, blame your parents.
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madaboutharry
(40,199 posts)Its right there in Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Another freak who needs to be removed from the Bench.
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Initech
(100,054 posts)Fuck this bigoted judge...
schmice
(248 posts)Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Old Union Guy
(738 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)and how does my DNA know the diff?
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)Bigoted, backward arse.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)but it seems to me that if someone wants to change their name that should be entirely up to them. Is this judge dictating that a "male" should not be allowed to take a "female" name or vice-versa?
What's his position on names that are generally accepted for either sex?
this is just vile nonsense.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Lots of now-female names were male names in the 19th Century:
Beverly, Joyce (Joyce Kilmer), Evelyn (Evelyn Waugh), Vyvyan(Oscar Wilde's son) or Vivian, Connie.
johnnypneumatic
(599 posts)but in fact Graves is nothing more than an imitation of a human being, and it would be fraudulent for him to claim he is one. While Grave's DNA may appear human, he is clearly a baboon (I consulted with a physician, Dr. Doolittle, on this matter).
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)It shouldn't surprise me, but it somehow does.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)tonekat
(1,811 posts)Off the bench ASAP, he is obviously mentally incompetent and incapable of rendering judgement on a game of tic-tac-toe, let alone a personal decision fraught with meaning to the petitioner.