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Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 03:51 PM Jun 2014

Open letter to medical professionals and the AMA: Start the conversation

I would have included a few more "whereas" 's about HFCS, some specific pesticides, more about Endocrine Disruptors and antibiotics, and linked to more bad news about infant mortality and learning disabilities, but hey, it's a start.

http://www.examiner.com/article/open-letter-to-medical-professionals-and-the-ama-start-the-conversation

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Open letter to medical professionals and the AMA: Start the conversation (Original Post) Brainstormy Jun 2014 OP
You do make the case for limiting glyphosate usage, but much of what you cite Warpy Jun 2014 #1
Glysophate is not more heavily used in the developing world than it is here Brainstormy Jun 2014 #3
Just who do you think is farming much of the developing world? Warpy Jun 2014 #4
what exactly is your point? Brainstormy Jun 2014 #5
You got the point, you just don't like it. Warpy Jun 2014 #6
Sorry, but this is just throwing a bunch of sciency shit at the wall skepticscott Jun 2014 #2

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
1. You do make the case for limiting glyphosate usage, but much of what you cite
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 06:25 PM
Jun 2014

is not happening worldwide, especially in the developing world where it's used even more heavily than it is here.

I agree that it's overmarketed, overused and there is a lot of denial about its safety. No poison is safe and disturbing data about glyphosate are rolling in at an increased rate.

However, a lot of what is happening in the US is more attributable to depressed wages, worsening diet due to depressed wages, and lack of access to health care that is paired with depressed wages.

You're right that medical professionals need to get onto the problem of overused herbicides. You are wrong that it's the major problem in the US. Poverty is the major problem here, poverty that was created and maintained by 40 years of conservative government by both parties.

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
3. Glysophate is not more heavily used in the developing world than it is here
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jun 2014

although some places--Argentina, Brazil, etc., may be catching up. But all the problems that non-industry funded studies have turned up with glysophate specifically and GE crops generally are ABSOLUTELY happening in the developing world also.

I concede that poverty, depressed wages, etc., are problems. I would even concede that poverty is a major contributor to obesity-related chronic diseases. Poverty doesn't explain the explosion in cancer rates, learning disabilities, autism, asthma, Parkinson's, Altzheimer's, -- I could go on and on and on.

The point of the post was an appeal to medical professionals to help start the conversation about what's IN and food and KILLING us.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
4. Just who do you think is farming much of the developing world?
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 03:13 PM
Jun 2014

Clue phone: it's not indigenous subsistence farmers.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
6. You got the point, you just don't like it.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 05:01 PM
Jun 2014

If you think United Fruit and Chiquita and Con Agra aren't using the stuff, happy dreaming.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
2. Sorry, but this is just throwing a bunch of sciency shit at the wall
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 07:30 AM
Jun 2014

and hoping something sticks enough to scare people. There is a distinct lack of actual proof of correlation between the many things cited, only dishonest attempts to imply it.

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