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Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:02 PM Mar 2016

Sous vide roast beef

I really like the idea of taking cheap cuts of meat and turning them into something special. While it's certainly easy and elegant to prepare a rib roast for family and friends, that cut of meat is very expensive and particularly well suited to grades of beef that have very little connective tissue which makes it even more expensive, i.e. USDA choice and prime.

Cheaper cuts of meat inevitably have more collagen or connective tissue, which means if cooked at relatively high temperatures for short periods of time like tender cuts, they will be very tough. However, if you cook these cuts of meat at lower temperatures for longer periods of time, that collagen will break down into gelatin, which is tender and tasty stuff. So cheaper cuts of meat actually have the potential for being tastier than more expensive cuts, but there's a few obstacles you have to overcome.

Certainly cheap cuts can be prepared by various slow cooking methods like stewing, braising, or smoking. The problem with all of these methods is most of the juices from the meat will exit during the cooking process and along with it goes a lot of flavor. Most people deal with this by preparing a sauce or gravy, often with the left over juices from the meat. There's certainly nothing wrong with any of those methods, but what I'm really after is something that is closer to a rib roast which can be sliced and served as is while still being juicy and flavorful. For that, sous vide is the way to go.

This recipe also lends itself very well to cold cuts after the meat is chilled and sliced very thinly. At the deli counter you may have seen roast beef that has a very red interior color. This is because the meat has been cured with nitrites. While you can certainly do this at home, I do not for various reasons, but if you like the color and/or the taste you can buy a product called Tender Quick and use it in conjunction with the salt in the curing stage of the recipe.

I like to use eye of round for this recipe. Cuts from the round (or rear leg portions) are well suited to sous vide because they are relatively lean while still containing plenty of connective tissue, and they tend to be cheap.

Ingredients:

Eye of round roast (2-3 lbs recommended)
Prepared mustard (I like Dijon, but plain yellow mustard works fine)
2-3 tsp brown sugar
2-3 tsp salt
1 tsp ground black pepper
1 whole garlic clove (optional)
Fresh herbs (optional)

Pat the roast dry with a paper towel, then sprinkle 1tsp of salt per lb of roast all over using your fingers to rub the salt into the exterior of the roast. Wrap the roast loosely but well sealed in cling wrap and store in the bottom of your refrigerator for 24 hours.

Remove the cling wrap and path the roast dry with a paper towel. Place the roast in a vacuum bag. At this point you can add the garlic clove and/or fresh herbs. Vacuum seal the bag removing as much air as possible.

Cook the roast in the water bath for 16-24 hours. I like to use 145F, but you can vary that temperature to suit your own tastes. After the sous vide you will have about a cup or so of broth. While it's not required for this recipe, it's a good idea to save it for au jus or other things.

Preheat your oven to 500F or as hot as it will go.

Mix the brown sugar and pepper until well combined. Pat the roast dry with a paper towel and lightly coat with prepared mustard. Sprinkle the brown sugar/pepper all over the roast and use a brush to combine the spices and mustard.

Bake on a roasting pan until the roast is well browned, about 20 minutes. Slice and serve immediately or chill and slice thinly for French dip sandwiches with au jus.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
1. Wow..interesting. Not familiar with technique -
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016

So - what is the texture like when finished? It's more like a firm roast to slice - rather than "falling apart pot roast like". And, it's not "rare" at all, unless you add color/Tender Quick ?

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
4. Tender Quick contains nitrite that keeps the beef from turning from red to brown
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

So if you cure with them the meat will either be pink or red depending on the state of the meat before curing, how much you use, and how long the cure is. It has a preservative effect, but then so does salt. It adds a flavor that is similar, but a bit different than salt.

If you use the 145F water bath temperature, the meat will be firm enough to slice thinly and will be essentially the same texture as a steak cooked to medium or medium well. You can certainly use lower or higher temperatures as you like.

Tenderloin is a tender piece of meat, so you could prepare it via sous vide, but there would be no need to cook for 16-24 hours because there's not much collagen that you need to convert to gelatin. Personally I'd probably use a lower temperature, say 135F for about 4-6 hours for that cut of meat if I wanted to do it sous vide.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. BTW - have two whole beef tenderloins to cook for Easter dinner.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:14 PM
Mar 2016

Going to tie, salt, and leave in fridge for 24-36 hours before I cook - and I know not to overcook and to tie short ends up.

But - any other tricks? Or spice rub idea?

Going to make two sauces - Bernaise and horseradish (with homemade creme fraiche).

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
3. Hmmm. I saw something similar on Alton Brown's show a few years ago.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

Cook the roast at low temperature (I think he did 200F) for 4-6 hours, and then blast it at the end for 15 minutes, and it seals in the juices and flavor. I actually tried it a couple of times (a rib roast once and an eye of the round roast) and it worked pretty well.

How does the vacuum bag work?

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
5. Sous vide requires vacuum packaging
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:56 PM
Mar 2016

Whatever you are cooking will be cooked by the water through the bag. Instead of cooking by time, you are cooking by temperature. So a medium rare steak would be cooked in about a 135F water bath for a few hours. Since there's no chance of overcooking you can leave it in the water bath for a very long duration (within reason) without affecting the outcome. This is quite handy as you can put your food in the water bath in the morning before you go to work and it's ready by dinner time whenever you are ready to serve. My recipe calls for very long cooking times, but an individually wrapped single serving piece of meat would only take an hour or two depending on thickness.

Douglas Baldwin's free guide is a good place to start to learn about the technique.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
6. How is this different than a slow cooker?
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:50 AM
Apr 2016

You cook lesser grades of meat slowly and it tastes really good. It's nothing new.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
8. Imagine a piece of round roast cut and served as a steak
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:45 AM
Apr 2016

...cooked medium rare and just as tender as filet mignon, but with a lot more flavor. Imagine a piece of poultry cooked to 145F instead of 165F, which isn't dry or chalky, yet is perfectly safe to eat with no worries of salmonella poisoning.

You can't normally do those things with a slow cooker, unless you hook up a temperature controller to it and transform it into a sous vide setup, which is exactly how I do it.

There are other advantages as well. With sous vide you can select any doneness level you want from rare to well done and dial your preferred level in perfectly every time. You can do this with any piece of meat or vegetable that will fit in a vacuum bag. Similar to a slow cooker, you get the convenience of being able to start the food before you leave for work and it's done when supper time rolls around at your convenience. You also get the added convenience of being able to cook a week or two ahead of time, leave the food in the bag, then reheat whenever you want without the food tasting like leftovers. Since the food is fully pasteurized and sealed inside the bag, there's no pathogen danger even two weeks later stored in the refrigerator instead of the freezer.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
10. Wow, that sound exceptional. I guess I need to check it out,
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:27 PM
Apr 2016

but understand I am an older guy. I am enough of a long time progressive though to look into all of what you have said. I don't have to throw out all my pans though? I know I don't, but what you said sounds remarkable. I will certainly look into it.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. The vacuum sealing and then the need to correctly control the cooking temperature
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 05:56 AM
Apr 2016

are barriers to most home cooks.

And while a crockpot is a somewhat different technique, it's one readily available to the home cook.

Today I fixed chicken cacciatore for the very first time using my crockpot and it was totally amazing. I've of course heard about that dish forever, but I don't think I'd ever had it until very recently, which inspired me to make it. I now have six portions in the freezer for future meals.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
9. That's true, but less so than it was a couple of years ago
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:57 AM
Apr 2016

And I suspect that trend will continue. A few years ago sous vide was the realm of high end cooks and food geeks that were repurposing second hand laboratory water bath circulators.

Today there's a variety of home appliances that provide the amateur home cook with the capability of doing sous vide. There's been a thread or two on the subject of people replacing their crockpots with smart cookers which provide the capability of slow cooking, pressure cooking, yogurt making, rice cooking, and sous vide. Because of their relatively low price and the versatility of the number of other appliances they replace, I think these are just going to become more and more popular once people realize what they can do. I don't have one, but I probably won't be buying any of those previously mentioned appliances again and will instead just get a smart cooker at some point.

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