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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:01 PM Oct 2015

I'm making my own dog food, again

Years ago there was a recall of the food my pups were on (Iams) and I started preparing food for them. Usually it was ground turkey, rice or potatoes with cranberries, spinach and sage or thyme and maybe carrots. I stopped and went with one of the best dry kibbles I could find and afford.

My neighbor's dog recently died of pancreatic cancer. He used to feed it prepackaged treats all day. So many that when they put the food bowl down the dog was not interested. I asked one time why they had a bowl of uneaten food in the kitchen thinking the dog may be sick. Also saw mouse droppings near the bowl so I knew this wasn't just a one day event. He said the dog love "Pupperoni" but not kibble so much. It was a tough conversation for me because I knew he really loved this dog but he was killing it with horrible over-priced garbage. For humans much pancreatic cancer is linked to high consumption of hot dogs, bacon, pepperoni and lunch meats. Dog treats are worse because they need enough nitrites to preserve the food for months without refrigeration.

I couldn't talk him out of the treats and eventually his wife bought the dog what she thought was better food, (and who wouldn't -- great ad campaign) Beneful. One of the worst rated dog foods on the market with almost no meat products, all filler and preservatives. They were devastated when the vet told them the dog had advanced stage pancreatic cancer. And I felt guilty that I hadn't been able to convince them that many, perhaps most, of the products sold as treats are very harmful to the longterm health of their beloved pet and family member. I had bought them a package of precooked chicken to try and show them that there were options they could treat with that were no more expensive than Pupperoni and had none of the crap.

Flash forward to last week. I helped a friend who has mobility impairments and lost a dog to cancer back in June, get a new puppy (and will help with training and walking as needed. Couldn't talk him into an adult rescue, whole other story...). The breeder is holistic. Against spay and neutering, Against over vaccinating and had research to back up her positions. The puppy is on a raw diet -- raw chicken and veg in the AM, raw beef tripe and veg in the PM, supplements. We can't afford that stuff longterm. Some of it is $7-10 a pound so I was researching alternatives and how to transition the pup.

All of which took me back to my food journey with my dogs. My female has a fair number of allergies. She is on grain free kibble but it has pea protein in it which is mildly allergic to. She has allergies to duck, rice, peas, etc so it has been tough to find a commercial food that doesn't have at least one thing from her no-no list. The absurdity of it all really hit me yesterday -- $7 a pound ? I got chicken thighs at $1.25 per pound and ten pounds of potatoes for $4, organic carrots. I made big batch and am doing every other meal with that. I will see how it goes and whether her allergies improve.

Anyone else making their own food?

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I'm making my own dog food, again (Original Post) GreatGazoo Oct 2015 OP
We do. Adsos Letter Oct 2015 #1
Nice! I wish I could use rice GreatGazoo Oct 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 2015 #5
cats TheJames Oct 2015 #2
thanks. Where do you get the bone meal powder? GreatGazoo Oct 2015 #3

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
1. We do.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 01:30 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Owners of three dogs here. We cook up batches of food enough to last 2 weeks. Put them in individual Tupperware-type containers and store them in the garage freezer. The two small dogs split a container, while the big dog gets a full one. Simply pop the frozen containers into the microwave for a couple minutes, then serve.

Recipes vary a bit between the big and small dogs because the big dog is old (about 16 years) and needs a special diet. The small ones get a base of brown rice, with veggies and chicken/turkey burger or ground beef cooked in; while the old dog gets white rice with veggies and chicken/turkey burger.

These are dinners. Their breakfast meals are usually some kind of non-sweetened cereal, mixed with plain yogurt and egg.

A nice potty walk follows each meal, morning and evening.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
4. Nice! I wish I could use rice
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:21 PM
Oct 2015

It is easier to work with than potatoes but showed up as an allergen on the female's panel.

Here they are looking (lovingly) at a piece of turkey. I wanted to get the gold one against shadow and the dark one on the lighter part of the background. It worked. They would have done anything for that little piece of turkey...

Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #1)

TheJames

(120 posts)
2. cats
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:11 PM
Oct 2015

My Partner makes fresh food for our 6 cats, largely ground turkey w/bone meal powder and several other ingredients, after extensive research into their needs and metabolism. She also feeds some canned food and, I think too much, dry food available all day, "for after the collapse, when the ingredients for the fresh is no longer obtainable."
The research was quite deep, inasmuch as, just as one point, cats can be made blind simply by cooking their meat, as that alter the Taurine, which they don't produce any of internally, but must get from their diet.
DO NOT FEED COOKED POULTRY BONES. After cooking, poultry bones splinter instead of breaking into chunks. Large dogs can handle them MOST of the time, and it only takes one piercing of the intestine to kill your loved one.
Best wishes,
The James

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
3. thanks. Where do you get the bone meal powder?
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:17 PM
Oct 2015

we may try a raw version for the dogs eventually. Going to take a leap of faith on my part but I would love to be able to cuisinart a whole chicken, bones and all for them if they can handle it. Lots of other meats available and deer season is coming up.

Didn't know that about taurine and blindness (but I am a dog person). Only recently learned that dogs can, and perhaps should, have some alliums such as garlic in their diet, good anti-fungal. Reading through the history of the warnings on garlic, it looks like it was clearly a bad idea for cats and some point got added to the "avoid" foods for dogs but the digestion systems of cats vs dogs are very different.

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