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Related: About this forumParking lots not trouble-free for gun carry permit holders
Aller, who was charged with aggravated assault for the Nov. 11 incident, was also a handgun carry permit holder.
Ever since lawmakers opened serious consideration of a bill to allow permit holders to store firearms in their vehicles no matter where they are parked backers have maintained security won't be threatened because gun permit holders are law-abiding citizens and unlikely to commit crimes.
Public records reviewed by AP show, however, that some incidents, like the one at Klub Cirok, have the potential to become violent when guns are drawn by permit holders in parking lots. And club promoter Joe Savage said the bill is misguided.
http://www.tricities.com/news/local/article_0033d896-813e-11e2-861a-001a4bcf6878.html
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Out of that many, there will be some few that do bad things. But they will be few.
Texas keeps detailed records and publishes them online. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/index.htm
For 2011 Texas had 518,625 people with CHLs. (Concealed Handgun Licenses). Out of those there were only thee (3) convictions for Aggrevated Assault With A Deadly Weapon. For the general population of the state there were 2,765 convictions for the same charge. That shows that we are far more law-abiding than the general public, but we do have a very few bad apples.
For all convictions CHLers had 120 convictions of all listed crimes versus 63,679 convictions for the entire state. Again that is an outstanding record.
There is no reason to believe that the TN experience is signifigantly different than the Texas experience with legal concealed carry.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)...holders.
Apparently, you are comfortable living in a gangsterland
The Violence Policy Center has tracked cases where permit holders have been charged with serious crimes in parking lots, including:
Henry Ray Coleman, who was convicted of second-degree murder for the 2009 shooting of an unarmed man outside in an argument over how close their sports utility vehicles were parked to each other in a busy Memphis shopping center. Both men had been drinking.
Frank Graham, a former firefighter convicted of first-degree murder for the 2010 shooting death of his ex-girlfriend in the parking lot of the Memphis hospital where she worked as a nurse.
Troy Whiteside , who has been charged with second-degree murder for fatally shooting of an unarmed Knoxville business rival 13 times in the parking lot of a clothing store. Whiteside's attorneys have said he fired in self-defense.
Straw Man
(6,613 posts)You cite three more, for a total of four. With 400,000 permit holders, that means the incident rate is .0001%.
The sky is falling.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Four examples over four years comes out to about one incident per year from a base of 400K. That is rather thin soup. I am confident that there were more than four DGUs in parking lots during that time.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)very impressive
ileus
(15,396 posts)Stay safe wherever you may roam.
Ever wonder why other people fight so hard to make you a victim?
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)If you don't want us to be able to defend ourselves then you obviously want us to be victims.
guardian
(2,282 posts)to prohibit threatening people with firearms. Oh wait. There already is.