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As some open-carry activists look to take their long-gun-brandishing demonstrations outside the state GOP convention in Fort Worth, the movement's efforts are catching criticism from a pair of unlikely sources the nation's largest gun-rights group and a state legislator who has pushed open-carry legislation.
The National Rifle Association provoked headlines Monday after its lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action, posted on Friday an item on its website taking to task the Texas open-carry activists for hurting the cause of gun rights through their demonstrations, which have involved, among other things, toting long guns into chain restaurants like Chipotle and Chili's.
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Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)certainly not in the manner as this spin-off group, now disassociated from even the parent open carry group in Texas.
Where a state disallows concealed carry, then it must allow open carry, or be in violation of 2A and 14A. It can allow both forms of carry, but I support concealed with changes in law which clarify when open-carry is allowed, and which permit affirmative defenses for such.
mog75
(109 posts)If the business owners don't want these guys in their businesses frightening away their customers they should be able to kick them out. I am pro2A, but I've gotta admit I'd be concerned if I walked into a restaurant and saw someone with a MSR sitting in there. I'd be thinking "is this guy hoping to be a super star like lanza? " We all know the media and Bloomberg are praying for another. Which brings me to this thought : Are these guys carrying rifles into private business places just some of Bloomberg's guys trying to make gun owners look bad? They certainly don't represent any gun owner I know.
That's right Bloomberg has hired thousands of men and women and has also supplied them with assault style weapons and he has set them loose in Texas and other states that have open carry laws. These guys don't need Bloomberg to make them look bad as they are doing a fine job themselves. Private property is private property and your rights end at my property line. you have no right to think that you can carry a weapon onto my property. I shouldn't have to post a sign on the door of my business or on my property to advise you of that. Your clear knowledge of the Constitution and its various amendments should make that clear to you. Open Carry Texas is nothing more than a bunch of people who are hell bent on intimidating other people.
I am in total agreement with you on the property line. Open carry is stupid in a restaurant. Keep it concealed, what they don't know could save their lives. My Bloomberg comment was just a stupid thought I had, I don't know where I came up with that. But whoever is behind it is very effectively demonizing gun owners, and giving the second amendment abolishionists a big hand.
I appreciate the clarification. I have no problem with the 2nd amendment. I do have a problem with the interpretation that has taken place.