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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:38 AM Jun 2014

‘Responsible’ Ammosexual Accidentally 2nd Amendments Woman at Gun Show

A vendor at a gun show demonstrated responsible firearm ownership at a Pennsylvania gun show on Saturday when he managed to Second Amendment a customer while showing her a product.

Victim Krista Gearhart says that while Geoffrey Hawk, owner of ironically named “In Case of Emergency,” was demonstrating a holster at the Eagle Arms Gun Show at the Bloomsburg Fairgrounds he accidentally shot her in the leg–because everyone knows it’s a great idea to carry a weapon with the safety off.

Gearhart was taken to Geisinger Medical Center in Danville, where she was treated and released.

The shooting has been ruled an accident, and no charges will be filed.

Recently, because of “responsible gun owners” we have seen God exercise his will and cause a 5-year-old boy to shoot his twelve-year-old sister with a gun his parents bought him and an artillery shell smash into the side of a house three miles from where it was fired (Which, coincidentally, was the Full Auto Shoot and Trade Show in Oklahoma). Those, too, were “accidents.”

Unfortunately, the vague wording of the Second Amendment allows people who should not be allowed to sharpen a pencil to operate hot lead dispensers. We live in a cruel, crazy world.

http://aattp.org/responsible-ammosexual-accidentally-2nd-amendments-woman-at-gun-show/

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‘Responsible’ Ammosexual Accidentally 2nd Amendments Woman at Gun Show (Original Post) doxydad Jun 2014 OP
Yep, too many morons are armed, but... Styx Jun 2014 #1
Why lie? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #2
He was responsible until he shot the woman. Kaleva Jun 2014 #4
At most gun shows, Jenoch Jun 2014 #5
He's claiming someone else may have loaded the gun when he was busy. Kaleva Jun 2014 #7
I suppose that's possible, Jenoch Jun 2014 #8
Always check sarisataka Jun 2014 #9
Exactly. Jenoch Jun 2014 #11
"Responsible Gun Owner" does something foolish blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #12
He was considered responisble enough to be a qualified firearms instructor. Kaleva Jul 2014 #23
Didn't know the gun was loaded? liberal N proud Jun 2014 #3
That's the number 1 rule - "All guns are always loaded" DonP Jun 2014 #6
call him, irresponsible jimmy the one Jun 2014 #10
Duh, happens regularly at gunshows blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #13
By "happens regularly" he means "has happened at least once." Lizzie Poppet Jul 2014 #21
Well, that explains it. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #22
Boy, the smell of desperation when all the namecalling gets going. "ammosexual"... NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #14
When all you have is a hammer......(nt) blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #15
I would think a different slur is in order. "Ammosexual".... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #19
Wonder if the gun even had a safety....I bet not. ileus Jun 2014 #16
"The shooting has been ruled an accident, and no charges will be filed"-or not sarisataka Jun 2014 #17
Title alone makes it not worth reading Packerowner740 Jun 2014 #18
Dumbest post title EVER. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2014 #20
 

Styx

(30 posts)
1. Yep, too many morons are armed, but...
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:03 AM
Jun 2014

I really think your point would be stronger without all the insults and labels and snark. Perhaps substitute a realistic law or regulation that would prevent more incidents like this? Every gun show I've ever attended prohibited loaded weapons on site except for on-duty LEOs.

 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
2. Why lie?
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:25 AM
Jun 2014

The shooter clearly was not a "responsible gun owner". He violated several show regulations and may have violated state law.

Kaleva

(36,292 posts)
4. He was responsible until he shot the woman.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:19 AM
Jun 2014

From the various articles I've read, it appears he didn't properly clear his gun. The magazine was removed but he forgot about the round in the chamber. An error people sometimes make when unloading a semi-auto. The second mistake he made was not checking to see if the gun was unloaded before he used it to show the woman how it fitted in the holster and the third mistake he made was pointing the gun at the woman instead of a safe direction.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
5. At most gun shows,
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 10:43 AM
Jun 2014

it is against the rules to load the weapons that are for sale to be demonstrated for customers. It is obvious this guy was not being responsible. Do not lie about the facts.

Kaleva

(36,292 posts)
7. He's claiming someone else may have loaded the gun when he was busy.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jun 2014

"Police said Hawk told them he had left the gun on display when he completed background checks on some customers and believes it's possible someone loaded the gun when he was busy."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/30/gun-show-shooting_n_5542670.html

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
8. I suppose that's possible,
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jun 2014

but of course before handling the gun he should have checked to see if it was loaded. If did not, then he was not being responsible.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
11. Exactly.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jun 2014

I was recently at my brother's house. He's a retired cop but got a job with the U.S. Marshal's office. They issued him a gun and he was showing it to me and my father. He handed it to me and I asked him why he didn't rack the slide to show me it was unloaded. He said he did it in the other room (I believe him) and that he should have done it in front of me. He then did it again. He handed it to me and I did it as well. Overkill? I don't think it's possible.

 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
12. "Responsible Gun Owner" does something foolish
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:05 PM
Jun 2014

is a recurring meme amongst the pro-control crown. It appears some think it is the height of cleverness. You never hear "responsible driver backs over 5 year old" or "responsible electrician electrocutes himself". Clearly this guy was not a "responsible gun owner" due to the incident. Attempting to label him as such appears to be a back-door way of conducting a broad-brush smear of all gun owners.

Kaleva

(36,292 posts)
23. He was considered responisble enough to be a qualified firearms instructor.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 01:53 PM
Jul 2014

He may well have been a very responsible gun owner prior to that day when he ignored gun show rules prohibiting loaded guns and also violated safety rules he himself taught to many of his students.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
3. Didn't know the gun was loaded?
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:46 AM
Jun 2014


I am not a gun nut, but I know that every time you pick up a gun, you should treat it like it could be loaded.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
6. That's the number 1 rule - "All guns are always loaded"
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 10:58 AM
Jun 2014

2. Never let the muzzle point at anything you don't want to destroy
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
4. Know your target and what is beyond it.

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
10. call him, irresponsible
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

blueridge: Why lie? The shooter clearly was not a "responsible gun owner". He violated several show regulations and may have violated state law.

Duh, happens regularly at gunshows, only without negative consequence; this one is the tip of the iceberg since it resulted in a gunshot wound.
Blueridge demonstrates the nra view - up to the minute the infraction is committed the shooter was a largo (law abiding responsible gun owner), but then gets thrown under the bus after the fact.
Should his right to keep & bear arms be infringed upon now? now that he's an irresponsible gun owner?

donp: That's the number 1 rule - "All guns are always loaded"
2. Never let the muzzle point at anything you don't want to destroy
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
4. Know your target and what is beyond it.


You'd need remind largos of this thousands of times daily, & stiil wouldn't do much good.
Doesnt' work very well with eddie eagle graduates either.

Maybe #5 is needed for gunnuts:
#5 Always check to see whether a bullet is in the chamber by looking down the front of the barrel.

Might save somebody's life someday.

 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
13. Duh, happens regularly at gunshows
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:12 PM
Jun 2014

You have stats to back this claim up?

up to the minute the infraction is committed the shooter was a largo (law abiding responsible gun owner)

As is everyone until the first time they screw up royally. Yet you don't hear "responsible driver backs over 5 year old"

Should his right to keep & bear arms be infringed upon now? now that he's an irresponsible gun owner?

Don't know about his right to keep arms, that would depend on whether he is convicted of a felony or domestic violence misdemeanor that would, after due process of law, remove his right to own a firearm. I could see removing his Carry Permit due to the incident.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
21. By "happens regularly" he means "has happened at least once."
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jul 2014

But he'll take 1500 horribly-parsed words to say it...

 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
22. Well, that explains it.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jul 2014

My reading comprehensions skills are, clearly, lacking. Probably because I am a "gun-humping", "tiny-penis" "Ammosexual". Or a closeted racist, Randy Weaver apologist who can't be trusted with a bicycle tire or can of beans, much less a firearm.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
14. Boy, the smell of desperation when all the namecalling gets going. "ammosexual"...
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:09 PM
Jun 2014

and "Second Amendmented"...



Sure signs of desperation by the side that is losing the war for support of their mission to repeal the second amendment and disarm everybody but the police and military.

Bad idea.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
19. I would think a different slur is in order. "Ammosexual"....
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:59 PM
Jun 2014

has a bit of bigoted ring. (I don't think the OP is alluding to bias on the basis of sexual orientation, but there is a questionable alliteration not found in the more pedestrian "gun humper" and other penis metaphor.)

ileus

(15,396 posts)
16. Wonder if the gun even had a safety....I bet not.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 08:17 PM
Jun 2014

That's as far as I needed to read...it the writer doesn't understand basic SD platforms why bother reading any further.

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
17. "The shooting has been ruled an accident, and no charges will be filed"-or not
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:02 PM
Jun 2014
Police Plan To Charge Vendor Over Shooting At Gun Show
June 30, 2014 12:03 PM


ORANGEVILLE, Pa. (AP) — Police in Pennsylvania are recommending criminal charges against a gun show vendor who accidentally shot a woman while demonstrating a concealed carry wallet holster.

Bloomsburg police Officer Brad Sharrow said Monday he intends to file a reckless endangerment charge against 44-year-old Geoffrey Hawk, of Warminster. The Columbia County district attorney would have to approve the charge.

Police say 25-year-old Krista Gearhart was shot in the thigh on Saturday at the Eagle Arms Gun Show at the Bloomsburg Fairgrounds. She was treated at a hospital and released.

Sharrow says the vendor displayed “gross negligence” by failing to make sure the gun was unloaded.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/06/30/police-plan-to-charge-vendor-over-shooting-at-gun-show/
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