Any time now NRA talking points will materialize

And where might we find them?

Those that use the phrase "NRA talking point(s)" unironically
aren't really all that different from this ignoramous:

They don't take it very well when challenged on their "knowledge"...

I can't seem to find those anywhere.
Could you PM them to me, or better yet, post them here?
Thanks in advance.

...and I've been asking for years:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002690643

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117235272

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=114590

http://election.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x222480

As many times as I've seen this "NRA Talking Points" meme, no one has seen fit to post them yet.
I'm beginning to suspect that they really don't exist.

Several sources of which are linked to in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023396665

So, there is anti-gun talking points, but no one can post the NRA talking points.
Go figure.

Wednesday afternoon, National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre published a bizarre, paranoid screed on the Daily Caller outlining a series of wildly implausible scenarios in which (among other things) the police will cease to exist because of the deficit and al-Qaeda will provoke the government into stealing your guns. Here are the nine most absurd quotes from LaPierre’s piece:


1. Violent Latino Gangs Are Out To Get You: “Latin American drug gangs have invaded every city of significant size in the United States. Phoenix is already one of the kidnapping capitals of the world, and though the states on the U.S./Mexico border may be the first places in the nation to suffer from cartel violence, by no means are they the last.”

2. And They’re Streaming Over The Border: “The president flagrantly defies the 2006 federal law ordering the construction of a secure border fence along the entire Mexican border. So the border today remains porous not only to people seeking jobs in the U.S., but to criminals whose jobs are murder, rape, robbery and kidnapping.”

3. And So Is Al-Qaeda: “Ominously, the border also remains open to agents of al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations. Numerous intelligence sources have confirmed that foreign terrorists have identified the southern U.S. border as their path of entry into the country.”

4. And Obama Will Use Them As An Excuse To Take Your Guns: “A heinous act of mass murder—either by terrorists or by some psychotic who should have been locked up long ago—will be the pretext to unleash a tsunami of gun control.”

5. If You Want Gun Safety, You Want Civilization To Collapse: “After Hurricane Sandy, we saw the hellish world that the gun prohibitionists see as their utopia. Looters ran wild in south Brooklyn. There was no food, water or electricity. And if you wanted to walk several miles to get supplies, you better get back before dark, or you might not get home at all.”

6. Thanks To Obama, There Will Soon Be No Cops: “Meanwhile, President Obama is leading this country to financial ruin, borrowing over a trillion dollars a year for phony “stimulus” spending and other payoffs for his political cronies. Nobody knows if or when the fiscal collapse will come, but if the country is broke, there likely won’t be enough money to pay for police protection. And the American people know it.”

7. But The NRA Is Totally Not Paranoid: “Hurricanes. Tornadoes. Riots. Terrorists. Gangs. Lone criminals. These are perils we are sure to face—not just maybe. It’s not paranoia to buy a gun. It’s survival. It’s responsible behavior, and it’s time we encourage law-abiding Americans to do just that.”

8. It’s Just That The Collapse Of Civilization Is Right Around The Corner: “We, the American people, clearly see the daunting forces we will undoubtedly face: terrorists, crime, drug gangs, the possibility of Euro-style debt riots, civil unrest or natural disaster.”

9. And We Shall Overcome: “We [the NRA] are the largest civil rights organization in the world.”

LaPierre’s rant after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary was of a similar tenor.

and there's a picture of this man at the link as well:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/13/1592501/the-nine-most-insane-quotes-from-wayne-lapierres-apocalyptic-new-op-ed/

I guess if your enemies won't oblige you, do it yourself-while blaming it on them...

what's the problem now?

do you have no comments on the great blood stained lapier's wise talking points for the nra membership?

The disinterested reader will also note that said lambasting often comes from
precisely those DUers accused by *other* DUers of using his/the NRA's "talking points"

LaPierre is no more or less a shameless, self-promoting ideologue than Michael Bloomberg
(I discount Shannon Watts as she is a Frank Luntz-style hack and little more than
a mouthpiece for Bloomberg).

While progun DUers have no problem whatsoever beating up on
the NRA and the confederacy of dunces known as "the NRA board of directors", you
lot seem reluctant to apply the same standard to the Lord High Poobah and
Grand Financier of MAIG/Everytown For Gun Safety...

they're nothing more than the ravings of an delusional man.
If they were the NRA's talking points, then why can't I find them in some NRA booklet or even on their website?

if you were sincere in your request, you can google what lapiere says.

here's one talking point:
You see, the NRA and their lunatic leader Wayne LaPierre have long argued that these school shootings could be averted if we’d just put a few more guns inside the schools by arming teachers and other faculty members. The “good guy shoots the bad guy” argument. Well, here are a few arguments against this oft-repeated NRA talking point…


there you go, you got an answer. let's see if that makes a difference to your meme.

not link to the list of NRA talking points. You give quotes by the NRA idiot, Mr. Wayne. At least the RKBA side can link to an actual document that has the gun control talking points.

what difference does it make whether its a document on a website or talking points uttered by the idiot? the idiot is putting out the argument and the nra members and right wing media follow in the majority

says everything we say is some kind of NRA talking point do to the fact you disagree with it. It does get annoying as you have no other way of dialog. We just point out the only real validated and listed talking points are on the controller side. Just throw out the talking points thing or penis reference and run away.

when i've asked tough questions, at some point the gun supporters stop answering. Call them talking points or whatever, at some point all i get is 1. that survey is flawed (regardless of source); 2. the constitution says so; 3. more guns and more training; 4. well the voters will always vote for the gun lobby.

Most of the time the controllers run away and show up over in the other gun group complaining. I do give you credit for posting here and having a discussion. This group allows that unlike the other group, just look at the number of blocks in each.

If you have them, please post them here, or you can PM them to me.
It would be appreciated.
Thanks again in advance.

Wayne LaPierre, the National Rifle Association’s executive vice president, broke the group’s silence on Friday, a week after the school shootings in Newtown, Conn., with a lengthy, defiant address advocating armed officers in schools and slamming the media and violent video games and movies. Here are some of his best quotes:

1. “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

2. “We have blood-soaked films out there, like ‘American Psycho,’ ‘Natural Born Killers’ that are aired like propaganda loops on splatter days.”

3. “And throughout it all, too many in the national media, their corporate owners and their stockholders act as silent enablers, if not complicit co-conspirators.”

4. “But since when did the gun automatically become a bad word? A gun in the hands of a secret service agent protecting our president isn’t a bad word.”

5. “With all the foreign aid the United State does…can’t we afford to put a police officer in every single school?”

6. “Politicians pass laws for gun-free school zones. They issue press release bragging about them. They post signs advertising them, and in doing so, they tell every insane killer in America that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk.”

7. “How many more copycats are waiting in the wings for their moment of fame from a national media machine that rewards them with wall-to-wall attention and a sense of identity they crave?”

8. “There exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people through vicious and violent video games.”

9. “We can’t lose precious time debating legislation that won’t work.”

10. “I call on Congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed officers in every single school in this nation.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/10-top-quotes-from-nras-wayne-lapierre-85411.html#ixzz3LQpp7lUn

quotes from an idiot. Quite unlike the talking points that were put out by the control side to help people frame the argument against gun ownership. Those are real talking points designed to be used by other people not just quotes.

didn't Charlton heston say the 'from my dead cold hands'? that type of emotion (for a group that denigrates emotion when it comes to talking about victims) creates a frenzy. Those points are picked up by rabid right wings outfits like fox news (sic).

you have so far failed to provide a list unlike the ones that the pro-controller side has published and encouraged people to use.

You can't, but I will assume you mean anything you disagree with

Y'all say that with Pavlovian predictability. It's almost as if someone gave you a script to read from.

... any argument against any particular gun control initiative is an "NRA talking point," and therefore invalid.

So let me just reiterate that "NRA talking points" is a VPC and MDA talking point. Now that both our wells are poisoned, shall we continue the discussion?

discussions. We aren't going to change any minds.

... and then run away? Why am I not surprised?

... right there.

Anti-gun extremists have been losing in Congress, the courts and most of the state legislatures for going twenty years now.

lobby group and an anti democracy supporting group like the NRA.
I'll take our self funded honest money loses

Explain how all the money Joyce Foundation and Bloomberg spend on gun control equals "self funding"

Either you are lying or shockingly naive

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He's not "some manufacturing lobby group', so HIS money is entirely acceptable.

To some people...

Unless they superpac supports my viewpoint.

I'm sure when all the billionaire donors to gun control come sniffing for support for charter schools, reduced environmental law, keeping minimum wage as is- or lower- suddenly a 180 turn will occur

My guess is you're looking at another election cycle purge of rogue state level lawmakers.


Good job regressives...make it worse.

because most of the 800k came from the NRA, as if it is some monolithic ATM. Like 'em or not, the association is made up of at least 4,000,000 paying members who put their $ where their mouths are. It's called wide & deep grassroots organization, not throw together paper tigers who must depend on the drone of mass media coverage to at least look credible.

The folks in this latest blow-up doll are right about one thing: It starts at the state level.

guns and ammo go to those who fight against the rest of the nation.
Your dollars and the manufacturer's dollars and the NRA's dollars and the lobbyist dollar's go to buy politicians.
I hope some day campaigns will be publicly funded so there will be a real level playing ground.

But for now, you'll take money from one of the richest guys on the planet because
your ends justify the means-while complaining about your opponents doing
exactly the same thing:

And Bloomberg's dollars don't?

...though it won't help much if a candidate has little to fight for.

There is no short-cut around grass-roots organizing, in any case. One side has it, the other doesn't.

Such an unfortunate lack of confidence.

Weird the majority of the group doesn't seem to be psyched about letting their constituents know about their membership.
Truly bewildering.

releasing the names & addresses of concealed-carry records, but not into removing their own masks.

You would think they should be proud and shouting it from the roofs, maybe because it is not what their constituents want and they must hide the fact.