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benEzra

(12,148 posts)
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:01 PM Aug 2016

My 15yo daughter shot a gun for the first time yesterday

at our local shooting range; she has prior experience with bows and airguns, but no firearms. I had her double up with good earplugs plus earmuffs, and started her on a .22LR revolver shooting CCI Quiets, then moved up to full power .22LR, then my .223 Rock River AR with a 2-6x scope. She had a good time and shot well, as did her friend and friend's mom who came along. The CCI Quiets wouldn't even knock down the steel plates on the rimfire range, so she switched to the regular .22LR after only a couple cylinders of the Quiet. Rifle targets were paper at 50 yards.

I am saving full-power rifles for later. She really likes the antique Mosin-Nagant in the safe (Finn M39), but that one is rather intimidating for a beginning shooter I think, so we're sticking with .22's only for now.

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My 15yo daughter shot a gun for the first time yesterday (Original Post) benEzra Aug 2016 OP
I can't say I recommend the nagant to any new shoter Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #1
A kick, oh yes they do, lol Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #4
Yup, I don't shoot mine all that often, and when I do, it's usually just a few rounds. benEzra Aug 2016 #7
put a good beergood Aug 2016 #18
Start 'em out the right way Puha Ekapi Aug 2016 #2
Is this a good sport for a 15 year old or so she can defend herself? Doodley Aug 2016 #3
It's definitely a good sport for a 15yo (I started shooting younger than that) benEzra Aug 2016 #6
Some day she may even decide... Puha Ekapi Aug 2016 #9
Yep, very true. benEzra Aug 2016 #14
The .25-06 REM is a soft kicker with good down-range power for most American big-game... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #11
WAY... Puha Ekapi Aug 2016 #8
Glad she had a great time Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #5
Very nice. My daughter and my niece both shot (pistols) for the 1st time jmg257 Aug 2016 #10
I started my grand kids off with a lever action Marlin 39A and a Ruger Bearcat DonP Aug 2016 #12
As a child, I learned on a brown Nylon 66 and a Ruger Standard Model benEzra Aug 2016 #15
I have 2 each in Mohawk Brown and Apache Black, still looking for a Seneca Green one ... DonP Aug 2016 #16
Started mine out on virginia mountainman Aug 2016 #13
OMG OMG melm00se Aug 2016 #17
My M-39 is a 1943 SAKO, what do you have? EX500rider Sep 2016 #19
That's exactly what I have. Straw Man Sep 2016 #20
It's a sweet rifle... EX500rider Sep 2016 #21
Mine's a 1942 VKT built on a 1905 Izhevsk hex receiver. (n/t) benEzra Sep 2016 #22
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
1. I can't say I recommend the nagant to any new shoter
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:16 PM
Aug 2016

There is a hell of a lot of kick to them. If you can reload and get some lower power cartridges, it can be ok to shoot, but otherwise it just kicks too much for new shooters.

benEzra

(12,148 posts)
7. Yup, I don't shoot mine all that often, and when I do, it's usually just a few rounds.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 04:00 PM
Aug 2016

High-powered rifles with steel buttplates will definitely let you know when the shot goes off...

benEzra

(12,148 posts)
6. It's definitely a good sport for a 15yo (I started shooting younger than that)
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:58 PM
Aug 2016

but as to defending herself, she doesn't have access to the gun safe (and can't, legally). It's about building life skills and confidence so that if someday she chooses to own guns herself, whether for sport or for defensive purposes, she is competent to do so. It will be her choice, but if she chooses not to, it won't be for reasons of ignorance and incompetence.

And if she chooses never to go on to shoot a full-power rifle or pistol and just sticks with the smallbores, that's fine. I took her this weekend because she wanted to go.

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
9. Some day she may even decide...
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 04:15 PM
Aug 2016

...that she would like to hunt, in which case that is only a positive thing for conservation and the environment.

benEzra

(12,148 posts)
14. Yep, very true.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 08:31 PM
Aug 2016

I have never been deer hunting, but have friends who are hunters and they are encouraging me to give it a try this year. If I can get around to jumping through the hoops to get a NC hunting license, I will probably give it a go.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
11. The .25-06 REM is a soft kicker with good down-range power for most American big-game...
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 05:59 PM
Aug 2016

I have come around on my thinking when it comes to shotguns. NOT starting kids with .410s seems a no-brainer, now, as it is a prescription for early failure at bird hunting. The gauge/caliber is really for experts for obvious reasons. A .20 ga. certainly is preferable. Here is where I have changed my views: Action. Most instructors recommend semi-auto as the already mild kick of the .20 is reduced further. Counter-intuitively, the semi-auto action is where a lot of instructors want to start as it prepares a child to use the supposedly trickier (and most popular) action early on. In short, kids don't "grow into" semi-auto (often with no formal instruction or even hunter ed), learning exclusively on their own (less desireable). Frankly, I would seek instruction on the use of a semi-auto shotguns as my weapons are pump action and SxS. God! I'm a Luddite.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
10. Very nice. My daughter and my niece both shot (pistols) for the 1st time
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 05:22 PM
Aug 2016

Last weekend. They're in their 20s...enjoyed it well enough that we'll do again when we get the chance. Whenever my sister comes down to visit we spend a bit o time on the range too. Shes getting pretty good with her P99.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
12. I started my grand kids off with a lever action Marlin 39A and a Ruger Bearcat
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 07:10 PM
Aug 2016

Once I was comfortable with their handling, I let them shoot one of my Remington Nylon 66s (Apache Black). Very light, accurate and easy for smaller hands to handle and aim.

Simple, fun and all cheap to shoot.

Just about had to pry them out of their hands when it was time to pack up.

On the way home the grand daughter announced to her brother that the Nylon 66 was; "her gun and I was just keeping it for her until she's old enough".

benEzra

(12,148 posts)
15. As a child, I learned on a brown Nylon 66 and a Ruger Standard Model
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 08:43 PM
Aug 2016

after cutting my teeth on a Daisy BB gun.

The Nylon 66 was a fantastic little rifle, and the nylon receiver/stock was interesting. I ordered a factory manual from Remington so I could take it apart and clean the powder fouling out of it, after thousands of rounds and probably 20 years without a cleaning (disassembly/reassembly is a tricky prospect indeed without the manual!) After that, I graduated to a Bersa .380 pistol (PPK derivative) and a Ruger Mini-14 .223 carbine.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
16. I have 2 each in Mohawk Brown and Apache Black, still looking for a Seneca Green one ...
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 08:51 PM
Aug 2016

... at least that's the excuse I use for haunting the used racks at the local gun stores. I think the Green ones were only sold at Montgomery Ward way back when?

Very light and easy to handle for the kids, and accurate with plain old iron sights too. I usually put some spare clays out for the kids to shoot at if we don't have a gong handy.

Having a reactive target of any kind, clay, spinner, steel gong, makes it a lot more fun for them.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
13. Started mine out on
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 08:23 PM
Aug 2016

SKS carbines! Now my 17 year old daughter has declared her affection for my .45! So upon my demise, it's hers!

And we really don't care what the law says at that time.It is simply none of anyones busness, but ours!

melm00se

(4,972 posts)
17. OMG OMG
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:29 PM
Aug 2016

you are setting her on the path of be a blood crazed, murdering gun humper.

What kind of parent are you!!???!!???

: : (as if it were needed)

Straw Man

(6,613 posts)
20. That's exactly what I have.
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 04:36 PM
Sep 2016
My M-39 is a 1943 SAKO, what do you have?

Nice!

(Although I realize that you weren't talking to me ...)
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