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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 10:21 AM Jun 2014

All I can say is that you are uninteresting! An exchange with General Michael Hayden, ...

Thank you very much for giving me some time. What I’m interested in is the issue of mass surveillance. To put my cards on the table I’m a big critic of mass surveillance but I’m against paranoid coverage of it and want to know exactly how it happened and what its extent is. Can we start with some history. You were running the NSA during 9/11?

General Michael Hayden: Right.

Were you like Richard Clarke? Did you know immediately that it was al Qaida?

Yes. Absolutely. All instinct, no evidence, but the evidence came in pretty quickly. What I would call the equivalent of celebratory gunfire on al Qaida networks.

http://www.opendemocracy.net/michael-hayden-anthony-barnett/all-i-can-say-is-that-you-are-uninteresting-exchange-with-general-mic
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All I can say is that you are uninteresting! An exchange with General Michael Hayden, ... (Original Post) bemildred Jun 2014 OP
I counted four lies... grasswire Jun 2014 #1
It is always good to get people to speak for themselves. bemildred Jun 2014 #2
“We had to wait for Snowden for proof”, an exchange with William Binney bemildred Jun 2014 #3

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. I counted four lies...
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jun 2014

...and thanks for posting this. It's a better interview than anyone has gotten here in the U.S.

Binney interview there on the 7th. I won't miss that.

This really is a must read.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. It is always good to get people to speak for themselves.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 02:07 PM
Jun 2014

I didn't try to analyze it, but it's not hard to do. I thought the interviewer did a good job.

I did notice the part about "pure executive power". That pretty much nails whom to bring to trial.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. “We had to wait for Snowden for proof”, an exchange with William Binney
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:41 AM
Jun 2014
I’m interested in surveillance and whether there really is effective mass surveillance taking place. It is said that you helped to develop how it could be done but then resigned from the National Security Agency (the NSA) when they started to apply collecting data on Americans. So could we begin with an introduction?

I worked in the Army Security Agency during the Vietnam War, from 1965 to 70 then joined the NSA. I started out doing traffic analysis for them. This evolved into data system analysis and cryptography systems and code analysis and I became the NSA technical director in mid ’97 running an operations centre with about 6,000 analysts doing reporting and analysis for NSA.

Does that involve breaking encryption?

It’s more like designing systems to manage or solve problems. I had to know the technologies involved and the systems involved. I got away from breaking systems to designing systems to defining the issues to solve. Part of that, I guess, was leveraging all the background I had in cryptology and codes and data systems.

http://opendemocracy.net/william-binney-anthony-barnett/%E2%80%9Cwe-had-to-wait-for-snowden-for-proof%E2%80%9D-exchange-with-william-binney
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