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unhappycamper

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Sun Jun 15, 2014, 07:25 AM Jun 2014

It’s Not Surprising Two Harrier Jets Have Crashed in a Month

http://www.wired.com/2014/06/why-harrier-jets-crash/



An AV-8B Harrier lands aboard the flight deck of USS Boxer (LHD 4) while at sea, 2007.

It’s Not Surprising Two Harrier Jets Have Crashed in a Month
By Alex Davies
06.06.14 | 6:03 pm

An AV-8B Harrier jet crashed into a strip of residential homes in Imperial, California this week, destroying three houses. Last month, another Harrier crashed in the desert south of Phoenix. Both pilots ejected safely and no one was injured in either crash.

The Harrier is among the coolest, most ingenious aircraft ever designed, but the downsides of its design and a long history of failures mean these most recent crashes are hardly surprising.

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The first Harrier, the AV-8A, had a horrific safety record; more than half of the planes crashed. The second generation AV-8B, produced by Boeing, entered service in 1985. It’s much safer, but still compares poorly to other jets. According to an 2002 LA Times report, the AV-8B Harrier suffered 11.44 accidents per 100,000 flight hours, compared to just 3 for the F/A-18 Hornet. Between 1971 and 2002, 45 Marine pilots were killed in 143 noncombat accidents in Harriers.

The 131 Harriers currently operated by the Marines haven’t been as useful as their promoters hoped. Taking off vertically limits how much weight the jet can carry, so the crew needs to skimp either on fuel or on weapons payload. Less fuel means less range, which limits usefulness. “It’s not a very good airplane when you consider everything about it,” said Pete Field, an aviation consultant who served as a Marine officer and Navy test pilot.


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It’s Not Surprising Two Harrier Jets Have Crashed in a Month (Original Post) unhappycamper Jun 2014 OP
Get it straight jollyreaper2112 Jun 2014 #1

jollyreaper2112

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1. Get it straight
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:04 AM
Jun 2014

They can take off vertically, this is true. But operationally they roll to launch and will land vertically. Their range would be well and truly pathetic trying for VTOL with a payload.

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