Snowden: FBI's claim it can't unlock the San Bernardino iPhone is 'bullshit'
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/09/edward-snowden-fbi-san-bernardino-iphone-bullshit-nsa-appleNSA whistleblower rubbishes claims that only Apple can unlock killers iPhone 5C, indicating FBI has the means itself
Snowden: FBI's claim it can't unlock the San Bernardino iPhone is 'bullshit'
Samuel Gibbs
Wednesday 9 March 2016 06.30 EST
Edward Snowden, the whistleblower whose NSA revelations sparked a debate on mass surveillance, has waded into the arguments over the FBIs attempt to force Apple to help it unlock the iPhone 5C of one of the San Bernardino shooters.
The FBI says that only Apple can deactivate certain passcode protections on the iPhone, which will allow law enforcement to guess the passcode by using brute-force.
Talking via video link from Moscow to the Common Cause Blueprint for a Great Democracy conference, Snowden said: The FBI says Apple has the exclusive technical means to unlock the phone. Respectfully, thats bullshit.
Snowden then went on to tweet his support for an American Civil Liberties Union report saying that the FBIs claims in the case are fraudulent.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-future/one-fbis-major-claims-iphone-case-fraudulent
djean111
(14,255 posts)There is a feeling of theater surrounding this issue. IMO and all that.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)I wonder if he's right?
Hydra
(14,459 posts)But I was shown more than once that the spooks and the military have access to tech 20 years ahead of what we do.
Quantum chips just came out this year, and optical CPUs are projected to only be 2 years out for mass consumption. If they had those in the 90s, just imagine what they have now.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)For years.
I know there is truth in what you say.
I feel that Snowden would have been in a position to know some info the public is not privy to, but I can't give real credibility to anything coming through the Putin filter.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Which is pretty scary if he is- the whole problem with his releases and comments IMO is that only people directly working for the gov't should be should have access to any of that if we are being serious about national security rather than social control.
And regarding the Russian thing, it's sad when a whistleblower has to run to the other side of the earth into the hands of a monster to be safe from the reach of our (torturing) people. We were supposed to be better than that.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)There is no real protection for whistleblowers in the U.S.
We brought the entire situation upon ourselves, which really suprised me with it being a Democratic President.
It seemed like we learned nothing at all from the past.
ReallyIAmAnOptimist
(357 posts)...he's been a programmer for over 35 years.
w0nderer
(1,937 posts)is to copy and verify the copy(hash it) (even if it's encrypted)
then either
1 optimal (copy the copy, compare hashes and work on the extra copy in read only mode)
2 work on extra copy in read write mode and overwrite if you mess it up
so with desoldering / resoldering one nand it'd take forever but desolder nand from board (after copy)
then solder a fast exchange socket or hook it to a nand emulator (simulates a flash chip) and either if possible run it in ReadOnly or keep flashing the nand emulator every x tries where x is defined as best compromise of delay/tries vs flashtime
we aren't talking an 'at home' attempt here, there is a federal budget available...running through some chips or running an emulator would be pretty cheap compared to many things on national budget
hard work sure!...doable? ...most likely
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heh on edit i just read the aclu and saw they go sorta in the same direction i spoke of above LOL
I agree that Apple's involvement is unnecessary.
Clone the drive, then use brute force to crack the password. If the 10 password tries did not work, since they cloned it beforehand, they get 10 more tries and so on. Just add a few loops to the cracking program code.
I believe this is a ploy to get criminals to leave incriminating evidence on their phones. Drive erasers will not work on solid state drives either. If there was ever something on the drive, it is still there and can be recovered. Super-computers are exponentially faster than even a few years ago, so it should not take long.
Of course the government will lose the case and everyone will feel super-secure about their phones. LOL.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)For the tech description, even though it made my brain hurt reading it.
Memories of tearing my hair out working with microprocessors, back in '97 when it took overnight to download a photo on the "web" - I was in electronic tech school (at age 39) at the time...
w0nderer
(1,937 posts)hope it wasn't because it was too stoopid
i remember spending 2 weekends (low rate phone) downloading first or possibly second slackware (way way way back)
i was tech support and electronics enthusiast && my family was in hospital so i needed a diversion
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)I just had to plug it into the cooling pad!
I worked as a contractor at a firm whose clients included Lockheed, TRW (CIA spelled backwards), Hughes Missile, Grumman and generally who's who in the Death Star.
I took a one year shake and bake course, a condensed 2 year curriculum, and found it a real challenge.
Just bought a Panosonic Toughbook C - 30, which for me is on the same level of cool as owning one of the waterproof - dirt proof C.I.A. clandestine transmitters of the Vietnam era.
Know any sick mods for this?
Hope your family is well and o.k. now.
w0nderer
(1,937 posts)no ideas on cool hacks on the lappy sorry
however i'd say as standard
encrypt hdd, then second encryption inside possibly even third
it's only paranoia if they really aren't after you....check your librarian...or high school?!
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)Radio was my specialty, not computers, but since then the two,are completely intertwined in the communications field. You must know both these days.
Just emailed the computer guy from my 1997 class (was basically the same as Army singintel school, Prez of school was consultant for mil.)
He is alive and well and we made appointment for get together, reminds me of "Expendables" movie!
Laptop is CF 30, iirc.
Thanks for the tip, and I'm sure he will have more to add!