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Related: About this forumThe Assault at Spring Valley High Would Not Have Happened if the Girl Was White
I've recently discovered the website VSB and find this article to be very much aligned with my thinking. Maybe it's obvious to most people, but the author makes some good points about the assault and the lack of protection afforded to Black women, in general:
Source: Very Smart Brothas
I do not know what happened in that classroom at Spring Valley High School before Deputy Ben Fields violently assaulted a teen girl who was, apparently, resisting arrest. Im quite sure, however, that information will find its way into the public sphere very soon. We will also know more about Deputy Fields his work history, his relationship with the students, his personal life and we will definitely know more about the girl who was the victim of assault. Perhaps her name wont be made public, but her academic record and behavioral history will likely be. There will also be conversations about the need to have actual police officers in schools, and whether their presence helps control or helps contribute to an adverse environment.
All of this context will congeal to cloud and color how this case will be deconstructed, assessed, and, ultimately, decided. And this will be the wrongest thing to do, because none of that matters here. At least not in a macro sense. The only thing that matters when deciding how to think about and discuss this story is race. Specifically, the race of the officer (White) and the race of the student who was assaulted (Black). This is where the conversation about this any conversation about this needs to start. And then, once you acknowledge that the most meaningful conversation to have about this story needs to start with race, youll be more prepared for the next conversation, which is a bit more complex.
I have no doubt that if the student who was assaulted happened to be a Black boy instead of a Black girl, the assault still would have occurred. I also dont have much doubt that if the student who was assaulted happened to be a White boy, the assault still might have occurred. Maybe it wouldnt have. But Im not confident in saying that. I can still see it happening.
I can not, however, see that happening if the student who was assaulted happened to be a White girl.
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I didn't want to quote the whole article, but the entire piece is worth the click-and-read.
Full Article Here: http://verysmartbrothas.com/the-assault-at-spring-valley-high-would-not-have-happened-if-the-girl-was-white/
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)On MSNBC last night. The video - is clear as day regardless of the child's gender. Race. Anyone who doesn't find that officer's actions monstrous is not my ally.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)mcar
(42,287 posts)That SRO should be fired and charged with assault.
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)...O'Malley's tone and perspective were spot on.
I just wonder how many other folks will look at that situation and feel that student brought this on herself or that the 'peace officer' had no other choice but to body slam the student...or maybe the officer feared for his life because he knew the student to posses some secret negro ninja moves...I guess she should feel lucky she didn't get shot!
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)But that's it. I mean - if we are talking about DU. Even some of our current and former police officers at DU were disgusted at what they saw.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)So that's basically the 24 hour NJ news channel. They really only cover local news stories outside of NJ if they have relevance and teeth.
Also saying the Officer is on leave and she is facing charges.
I hope her family comes forward. I'll contribute to her defense fund and lawsuit against that punk.
Enough of these thugs always getting away with it.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Seems like that should be the first thing and way before calling the cops!
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)This is the same blog that was linked here this summer and GD lost it's collective mind over their "White Tears" piece . . .
Are making clear that they think . . . If she had been a white teenage girl -
Your scenario/appropriate response would totally totally make sense.
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)Well, I can only imagine what a discussion of "White Tears" could trigger.
I am always interested in the "spin" we see when something like this happens. Was the student in trouble? Sure, but the reaction from the teacher and the 'officer' were entirely inappropriate and criminal. There are better ways to handle unruly and violent students - which she was not! This is not the first time I have asked, "Did the officer's response reflect the nature of the "crime/violation"? Did the officer escalate the situation, or he try and defuse situation?
How many people will line up and say she got what she deserved! How many of her fellow students will have this same attitude (talk about Stockholm Syndrome), and think this is the correct way to react or be treated?
Did anyone see the reaction of the other students in the class?
Makes me sad and angry.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)Who look terrified. He wasn't laughing. He was under stress. But I'm sure his parents had 'the talk' with him.
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)..that's the one I was talking about...he didn't even want to look towards the action. Can you say PTSD?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)I want to reach out and hug him.
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)opps...double-post...
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leftofcool
(19,460 posts)When I was still teaching, most of the time, I would pull the student aside and give him/her a good talking to. That is the way it should be done. And too, sometimes parents are just not available to come ever time a kid acts up in class. Sometimes, the parents just don't care. Severe behavioral issues need to be addressed, but not by cops assaulting kids. Severe issues are usually caused by something going on at home. Cops should be the absolute last resort and only if the kid in question is hurting himself or someone else or has a weapon of some kind.
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Adrahil
(13,340 posts)It is clear the girl in question was wrong in refusing the obey the instructions of the teacher and the cop, but the VIOLENCE committed by that cop is in no way justified.
WHO THE FUCK DO THESE COPS THINK THEY ARE!?
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)So much this.
senz
(11,945 posts)Poor girl. I hope that cop loses his job.
JI7
(89,244 posts)These guys are usually more than twice the size of these girls and the girls are not threatening in any way.
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JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Because you might hurt that girl. You might scare her. You might scar her face. You might make her cry. That Black girl a Black girl who was more than likely hurt and scared and scarred and maybe even cried did not receive that type of consideration.
What an idiot! Doesn't he know that black girls and women don't feel pain??! We don't EVER get scared?? We don't cry?? Our faces and bodies don't scar??
We don't deserve any of the consideration and delicacy reserved for our paler sisters. Just shove us back into the dirt where we belong.
I am so fucking sick and tired. Of all of this.
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betsuni
(25,437 posts)He probably has a black nephew, too.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/fbi-to-investigate-violent-arrest-of-black-south-carolina-student/
I hope that poor girl is all right.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)Stop getting all up in your feelings over the internet.