I take another approach - forgive me but -

Haven't black women been taken to task enough by America?

BTW - I agree with you.

It bothers me that (and forgive my old-school sexist thinking, but) Black men really must have conversations among, about, and to, Black men, that women, Black, Brown, or white, just cannot have.

I love her btw

So is this about the word brother, not the target of the program?

Gender specific stuff like this needs to go away and soon..

Watch Enough Said! It's awesome. We dvr'd it and watched it when we came back from dinner last night. Catch MHP later.

Black men really must have conversations among, about, and to, Black men, that women, Black, Brown, or white, just cannot have.



I think, it's both ... the left have problems because it leaves Black women out, as a beneficiary of the initiative, i.e., "Black women and girls are similarly in need of help"; and the right has problems with it because "there are young white boys that would benefit from having mentors."

Sadly, the "either/or" frame is again making the perfect the enemy of the good.

female to female relationships can be productive in ways that others are not...

We, absolutely, need a national Female of Color initiative.

But not having one, should be fodder for opposing any national male of Color initiative.

Instead of dissing it i think it could be expanded on to include more programs targeting different groups of at risk youth. There should be a place for everyone, and instead of scrapping it i hope they use it as a model for other groups. Muslim youth are having sone issues with bigotry and fitting in. Hispanic males suffer from the same issues and need help. We need to spend more on our kids and less on jail.

good morning, my friend

Did you say jinx yet? JINX! You owe me a dollar.lol!

Obama introduced the program to address many issues:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025027607

...But 50 years after Dr. King talked about his dream for America’s children, the stubborn fact is that the life chances of the average black or brown child in this country lags behind by almost every measure, and is worse for boys and young men.

If you’re African American, there’s about a one in two chance you grow up without a father in your house -- one in two. If you’re Latino, you have about a one in four chance. We know that boys who grow up without a father are more likely to be poor, more likely to underperform in school.

As a black student, you are far less likely than a white student to be able to read proficiently by the time you are in 4th grade. By the time you reach high school, you’re far more likely to have been suspended or expelled. There’s a higher chance you end up in the criminal justice system, and a far higher chance that you are the victim of a violent crime.

Fewer young black and Latino men participate in the labor force compared to young white men. And all of this translates into higher unemployment rates and poverty rates as adults.

And the worst part is we’ve become numb to these statistics. We're not surprised by them. We take them as the norm. We just assume this is an inevitable part of American life, instead of the outrage that it is. (Applause.)

That's how we think about it. It's like a cultural backdrop for us -- in movies and television. We just assume, of course, it's going to be like that. But these statistics should break our hearts. And they should compel us to act.

As he says, ALL people of color have and are suffering. But the rate of males not getting a good education, being consigned to poverty and in the pipeline to prison is the worst part of all of this, stealing the generations.

Obama pushed gender neutral programs such as Head Start and other school programs as well as health care, housing and higher education.

I'll have to ignore white male complaints about this. Does anyone here really believe this program is discriminatory?

And sorry, I haven't seen MHP program so I'm missing part of this discussion. Later, gotta go.

Thank you for the video.