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El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:54 PM Mar 2013

And Panda is getting laarger.

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/mnenNEDebgCjLEtpIuIE5w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/

Giants' Pablo Sandoval gives himself two seasons before he's forced to confront weight issues

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. – Pablo Sandoval came to San Francisco Giants camp fat this year, like he does pretty much every year, because there are two truths about Pablo Sandoval, and one of them is he does not do skinny.

The other is that he's a remarkable hitter, preternaturally gifted like only a handful of players, maybe less. At 5-foot-11 (give or take – no, take – two inches) and 262 pounds (give or take – no, give – 20 pounds), Sandoval hits everything everywhere anytime anywhere. If anyone in baseball today is going to stroke a single off a pitch that bounces before it reaches home plate, it's him.

This is Sandoval's dichotomy, what makes him who he is – and the relationship between the two may be parasitic. Sandoval does not hit like a madman because he's fat. It could be argued he's fat because he hits like a madman – because his success in spite of his weight gives him little motivation to shed it, and because his bat makes him a hero in his native Venezuela where he returns annually and comes back heavier, and because this character he plays, the silly Kung Fu Panda, doesn't fly for a skinny guy....

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/giants--pablo-sandoval-gives-himself-another-two-seasons-before-he-s-forced-to-confront-weight-issues-053729912.html
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Auggie

(31,131 posts)
1. He's going to find himself on an A.L. team as DH if this continues ...
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:18 PM
Mar 2013

BTW, his elbow ailment is caused by a bone spur. It was not wise for him to play winter ball, IMO. Between this and the weight issue and the rape bullet he dodged last year, you start wondering about his judgment.

If he returns to form, and the Giants falter, I also wonder if he turns up in trade talks.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
4. This elbow problem has been going on for over a week...
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 05:51 PM
Mar 2013

I wouldn't be surprised if surgery is eventually called for. If so, they need to do it now. Pablo isn't going to be traded. He's only 1 year into a 3 year contract which is a real bargain for the player he's become. Now, if he can only stay on the field.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
2. Yes, the Panda has had some success, but is a guy who hit .283 last year
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 05:43 PM
Mar 2013

really someone that is "preternaturally gifted" that "hits everything everywhere anytime anywhere". As far as hitting a ball of a bounce, I'd still take Ichiro even at his age.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
7. I don't know, was it David Freese, Edgar Renteria,
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:55 PM
Mar 2013

Hideki Matsui, Mike Lowell, David Eckstein, or Jermaine Dye?

World series MVP doesn't make one a "preternaturally gifted" hitter. Such a hitter hits ALL the time. See Tony Gwynn, or if you want someone a little closer to home, Barry Bonds.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
11. You're right...
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:12 PM
Mar 2013

I just temporarily lost my mind when I saw you were trying to insult the Panda...it happens. Despite his weight, Sandoval is an extraordinarily gifted athlete however. And while he may not be the Ichiro of 6-7 years ago, I don't agree with your claim about today's Ichiro, Pablo can still hit balls out that many players can't even reach. He's also ambidextrous.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
12. Panda a very good player, but IMHO he hasn't had enough success
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:24 PM
Mar 2013

in his relatively short period of time for me to agree with such high praise. Admittedly, I don't get to see too many Giants games, so I may not appreciate is abilities as a bad ball hitter.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
5. I'd like to see Pablo lose some weight..
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 06:09 PM
Mar 2013

both for health considerations and his range at 3B. Thing is, he's not built that way...he's probably always going to be overweight. If the Giants could just get him to be like Prince Fielder, who despite being listed at 275 has played in all 162 games each of the last 2 seasons, everything would be fine and the weight issue talk would go away.

Auggie

(31,131 posts)
6. Don't agree. There's a big difference between playing 3rd and 1st ...
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 06:18 PM
Mar 2013

plus having the option for Fiellder to DH occasionally. If the right offer came along for Sandoval I'd be tempted.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
8. Who would play 3B?
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:38 PM
Mar 2013

The Giants infield depth is thin already. Arias is a better fielder and can hit some, but he's nowhere near the power threat Sandoval is. There's not much in the system at that position either. The Giants trade Pablo, they better get a Ryan Zimmerman type in return, signed.

Auggie

(31,131 posts)
9. I'm not suggesting it's going to happen tomorrow
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:54 PM
Mar 2013

But if Belt has finally arrived it makes a trade a little more easier to stomach (no pun intended). If Panda ends up on the bench mid season for what ever reason -- muscle tear, bone spur, fatigue -- he's just as useless as if he's been traded. I'm not saying it will happen. But if the team falters because of age, injury or fatigue, Sabean might want to use Sandoval to help reload, provided the value is there.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
10. I've got to quit posting Sandoval stories.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:10 PM
Mar 2013

All it does is make this a fucking Giants forum. Y'all need to get a room, or your own Sports Group.

Auggie

(31,131 posts)
15. Feel free to post all the obscure references you wish along with the associated snark ...
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 11:32 AM
Mar 2013

keep in mind the responses you will receive will not always be expected.

Admit it -- this was a stab at the Giants crowd. Right?

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
16. Me??? Make fun of the Giants??? Or their fans??? How dare you say that!
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:15 PM
Mar 2013


Still my favorite, but with a twist:

Auggie

(31,131 posts)
17. The top gif was a great play from last year ...
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:53 PM
Mar 2013

and showed the remarkable dexterity of Sandoval and athletic ability of Brandon Crawford. Thanks for posting.

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