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Streak over...Heat finally lose (Original Post) trumad Mar 2013 OP
Without Rose, no less. bluedigger Mar 2013 #1
They lost to the Bulls earlier in the season, too RockaFowler Mar 2013 #2
Aren't the Bulls always without Rose? Iggo Mar 2013 #3
lol Renew Deal Mar 2013 #11
or without Wade. trumad Mar 2013 #4
It was a great run. bluedigger Mar 2013 #5
Don't agree with the dilution of talent comment trumad Mar 2013 #9
We could parse this out forever. bluedigger Mar 2013 #12
true.. trumad Mar 2013 #14
He is pretty awesome. bluedigger Mar 2013 #15
they do seem to be adults. trumad Mar 2013 #16
Second only to the 71-72 Lakers' 33 game streak. madinmaryland Mar 2013 #6
it was incredible in 1972 also n/t wilt the stilt Mar 2013 #7
Lakers deserve major props for that run trumad Mar 2013 #8
I don't think talent has diluted relative to the time wilt the stilt Mar 2013 #13
great post trumad Mar 2013 #17
thx wilt the stilt Mar 2013 #18
Got to include Pistol Pete in there... trumad Mar 2013 #19
Monroe was a much more effective player wilt the stilt Mar 2013 #20
This got me interested in the streaks and I looked up a few things. hughee99 Mar 2013 #23
Very impressive Renew Deal Mar 2013 #10
And like the classy guy he is mythology Mar 2013 #21
of course you have no idea what you are talking about. trumad Mar 2013 #22

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
5. It was a great run.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:25 AM
Mar 2013

I'm sure there will be some angst amongst their fans, but they should be very proud of their team's accomplishment. I'm not so sure I put that much weight on it happening in today's NBA. There are factors that make it both more and less difficult than in the past. Increased travel vs. dilution of talent and increased familiarity with the opposition come to mind right off the top of my head, for instance. But it is very impressive in any case - they are one of the most dominant teams ever.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
9. Don't agree with the dilution of talent comment
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 12:55 PM
Mar 2013

I say there is more talent in today's NBA.

Simply because international players play in the NBA.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
12. We could parse this out forever.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:13 PM
Mar 2013

Maybe we should, that's what the group is for, after all.

You do make a fair point, but I would counter that the expansion of the league is as significant as the influx of foreign players, who were never prohibited in the first place, and who now have competitive leagues in their own countries in many cases.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
14. true..
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:12 PM
Mar 2013

I simply marvel at the athleticism of today's players.

James is a total blast to watch play.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
15. He is pretty awesome.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:30 PM
Mar 2013

You always have to judge players against their competition, of course. I doubt Mike Ditka would even make today's NFL, much less be a HOFer. Competitive spirit only takes you so far.

The Heat in general have grown on me. I'll always root against them as long as I have a drop of green blood left in my Celtic veins, but I don't dislike them on anything near the visceral level of my hate for the Fakers. They are a classy enough group of guys, and I particularly like their willingness to embrace social causes, unlike some (I'm looking at you, Mike.)

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
13. I don't think talent has diluted relative to the time
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 03:07 PM
Mar 2013

I remember Wilt saying that the athletes were better now however we shot better and ran plays better. I agree with both of those sentiments. If all the athletes are at the same level then it is the "same".

That being said I remember that Laker team very well and as great as they were the Knicks would have beaten them in the championship series. The Knicks beat them by 30 points in the opening game to steal home court but Dave Debuscherre suffered a hip pointe in that game and never played again in the series. They lost the best power forward in the game. great defensive player and great outside shooter.
The Knicks had just the right match up with Jerry Lucas playing center for the Knicks. He nullified Chamberlain by his shooting. He would kill the 3 point line today. He launched 30 footers and as Havlicek said he could shoot with anyone in the league.

Watch the 1973 championship when the Knicks won their second championship(the only one of those teams during that era that won 2)which included Boston, Lakers and Milwaukee.

If you ever get a chance to see highlights of the '73 series (Knicks, Lakers) Lucas is launching a 30 foter and Chamberlain is running to try to cover him and I thought Chamberlain was going to cry.



 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
18. thx
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:21 PM
Mar 2013

well appreciated.

the greatest dribbler of all time- no palming and couldn't even dunk



and no on can tell me that Kareem wouldn't dominate today.
 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
20. Monroe was a much more effective player
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:23 PM
Mar 2013

and he grew as a player. I remember Pistol at LSU and all how much he chucked which carried over to the pros. Monroe ended up being a good defensive player because that was important to the Knicks. Pistol could do lot's of great offensive plays and he also would be effective today. He was 6'5".

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
23. This got me interested in the streaks and I looked up a few things.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 01:18 AM
Mar 2013

For the four major sports, of course, you're right.

For the other professional sports, I found these interesting...
Julio Caesar Chavez won 87 consecutive bouts

Horse Racing
56 races — Camarero from '53-'55

Tennis
74 matches — Martina Navratilova (in 1984)

Beach Volleyball
112 match wins, 19 tournament wins — Misty May-Treanor and Kerri Walsh (from 2007-2008)

And in squash...
555 matches — Jahangir Khan (from 1981-1986)
and although they didn't keep specific match records for squash at the time
Heather McKay (Australia) may hold a claim to having the longest winning streak as she went unbeaten for 19 years (1962–1981)

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
21. And like the classy guy he is
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:15 PM
Mar 2013

Lebron James claimed that the Bulls were mean and played him physically. Apparently when he runs people over it's fun and games, but when he gets it back, he cries about it. Someday people will learn that most of the time if you preface a statement with "I'm not _____, but" you're probably about to do exactly that. Whether it's I'm not crying, or I'm not a racist, etc.

It's especially funny because he himself committed a flagrant foul in the same game, intentionally lowering his shoulder and throwing an elbow in an attempt to run somebody over. But I'm sure in his mind it's different when he does it, or maybe he's just that sore of a loser.

We've come a long way from Wilt Chamberlain noting that nobody roots for Goliath to the NBA (and to be fair sports in general) where whining is king, or in this case King James.



 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
22. of course you have no idea what you are talking about.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 07:03 PM
Mar 2013

You didn't even watch the fucking game but you're quacking like a jealous douchebag.

Best basketball player on the planet. Eat it.

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