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xchrom

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Sun Jun 1, 2014, 06:16 AM Jun 2014

Christian Leaders May Return to Nicaea: What Does It Mean?

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/05/what-does-it-mean-that-there-will-be-a-new-council-of-nicaea/371943/

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Mark your calendars: In 2025, Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians may return to Nicaea, the spot in modern-day Turkey where Christianity was literally defined. In 325, early followers of Jesus came together to figure out what it means to be a Christian; the goal was to create theological consensus across all of Christendom. This was way before the faith sub-divided into East vs. West, Catholics vs. Protestants, Southern Baptists vs. Primitive Baptists—these were the early days of the religion, when it still seemed like it could be observed as one, united faith. The council's effect on Christianity was huge; for one thing, most Bible-school students still learn some version of the Nicene Creed, the profession of Christian faith.

On his way home from a meeting with Pope Francis in the Holy Land, Patriarch Bartholomew I, the primary leader of Eastern Orthodox Christians, gave an interview in which he said that he and Francis are planning a gathering in Nicaea 11 years from now "to celebrate together, after 17 centuries , the first truly ecumenical synod." That's a pretty big deal; in 1054, theological disagreements led to a schism in Christianity, which is how Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians became separate faith traditions. This is a call back to a time before the schism, before the fundamental disagreements that kept popes and patriarchs from talking to each other for more than 900 years.

But the specifics are still pretty fuzzy. Will it be a formal ecumenical council, with leaders from the two faiths earnestly trying to reconcile their theological differences? Or will it be just what Bartholomew said—a celebration, full of meaningful dialogue but little actual change? Hard to tell, says Rocco Palmo, the author of the blog Whispers in the Loggia.

"It's 12 years away," he pointed out. Trying to predict what will happen in 2025 is like an extreme version of confidently declaring who will be president of the United States in 2016—there's just no way to know. Plus, Francis and Bartholomew are both in their 70s. Bartholomew said the pair wanted to leave this council "as a legacy to ourselves and our successors," which seems like an acknowledgment that they could both be dead—or retired—11 years from now.
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Christian Leaders May Return to Nicaea: What Does It Mean? (Original Post) xchrom Jun 2014 OP
That is indeed a pretty big deal. rug Jun 2014 #1
Given that Francis has been floating okasha Jun 2014 #2
Perhaps they will address the issue of Rome's unilateral addition "filioque" to the Nicene Creed, struggle4progress Jun 2014 #3
Reboot! AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #4
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
1. That is indeed a pretty big deal.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:13 AM
Jun 2014

Thanks for posting this. I hadn't heard a thing about it before.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
2. Given that Francis has been floating
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jun 2014

little trial balloons on the subjects of married priests, marriage equality and the status of divorced and remarried Catholics, the western Catholic Church may be quite different in 2025 than it is now.

struggle4progress

(118,280 posts)
3. Perhaps they will address the issue of Rome's unilateral addition "filioque" to the Nicene Creed,
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:10 PM
Jun 2014

which was one cause of the schism in 1054: I understand that the Orthodox objected that this addition was heretical but that Rome took the view that the addition was not heretical in Latin but only became heretical in Greek translation

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