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How To Annoy A Mexican Church (Original Post) snooper2 Jun 2014 OP
I think I might get a couple guys together and go do this down at SafeCo field. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #1
So, this guy gets dressed and goes down 23 floors... TreasonousBastard Jun 2014 #2
You have to fight the stupid with logic snooper2 Jun 2014 #4
Their first amendment right ends edhopper Jun 2014 #29
He says Mexican too many times for it to be normal. bravenak Jun 2014 #3
Agree and disagree Act_of_Reparation Jun 2014 #28
Honestly, it was the dislike of mexicans that really offended me. bravenak Jun 2014 #31
What a huge asshole and a racist bigot to boot. cbayer Jun 2014 #5
Maybe he should have said Hispanic Fundies snooper2 Jun 2014 #6
Maybe he should have, but he didn't. I think this guy is a Poe cbayer Jun 2014 #7
I agree. bravenak Jun 2014 #8
Agreed. What the hell does being Mexican have justhanginon Jun 2014 #9
Sounds like it's got everything to do with it. Iggo Jun 2014 #16
Really? Tell me what exactly calling these americans of hispanic heritage "mexicans" cbayer Jun 2014 #23
7 minutes of hating Mexicans. rug Jun 2014 #10
Because it's okay okasha Jun 2014 #11
Or Arabs. rug Jun 2014 #12
Whaddayamean? It's greatness! cbayer Jun 2014 #13
Racist jerk. I don't see these events where I live. Can see they'd be annoying (noise, repetition). pinto Jun 2014 #14
People don't like that he confronts the fundies so they scream RACIST! snooper2 Jun 2014 #15
No, I think he's a Poe and you are his perfect target audience. cbayer Jun 2014 #17
(aside) What's a Poe? pinto Jun 2014 #19
... cbayer Jun 2014 #22
you'll have to educate me too, Poe? I didn't say he was a writer LOL snooper2 Jun 2014 #20
Look it up - Poe's and Poe's law. cbayer Jun 2014 #21
This is how RationalWiki describes him: rug Jun 2014 #24
I thought he was an act the first time I saw him. cbayer Jun 2014 #25
He can confront evangelicals / fundies, counter them without the bigotry. pinto Jun 2014 #18
Strangely enough, okasha Jun 2014 #27
Dusty's early videos were funny. Promethean Jun 2014 #26
OK. Apparently some atheists are xenophobic bigots. struggle4progress Jun 2014 #30
The key point to keep in mind is... goldent Jun 2014 #32
I really don't expect atheists to be much different than other people struggle4progress Jun 2014 #33
I think that is exactly the point. cbayer Jun 2014 #34

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
1. I think I might get a couple guys together and go do this down at SafeCo field.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Tue Jun 10, 2014, 01:26 AM - Edit history (1)

Seems like a similar group is always there with their megaphones.
I would try and keep my language clean though. Tons of little kids around. I don't want to be the asshole.

And if they don't show up, Pyramid Alehouse is right across the street. Win/Win


Edit: I fast forwarded through a lot of this. Didn't catch the xenophobic overtones pointed out below. I saw them as a carbon copy of the same annoying white crowd with megaphones outside Safeco field, linked by their extremely loud and obnoxious faith, nationality not related/interesting to the issue.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. So, this guy gets dressed and goes down 23 floors...
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jun 2014

to try to embarrass some Mexicans enjoying their 1st Amendment right?

I also find them annoying, but not nearly as much as this schmuck wasting time on them instead of finding his earplugs.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
4. You have to fight the stupid with logic
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:31 AM
Jun 2014

Call me one of those "pro militant" atheists...



It's about the children

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. He says Mexican too many times for it to be normal.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jun 2014

He talked fast but i do not see it as useful to go up to christians and bug them about the rally. I did not see homes i saw a business district. And it was daytime. I am an atheist but i have no use for evangelizing or stopping people from gathering in a loud group of peaceful people. Then he got racial on them. He's lucky it wasn't me.
They love Jesus. Let them. It wont hurt you unless they are trying to pass laws or force it on you. I see rallies like that and just wave and walk by. I have decided he is rude and does not like mexicans. Not liking Mexicans annoys me a whole lot. Dusty!

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
28. Agree and disagree
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jun 2014

If someone wants to approach a picket line or a rally and disagree with those assembled, that's fine in my book. There's nothing especially prickish about it.

Their nationality, on the other hand, is completely and utterly irrelevant. He's either trying too hard to be funny or he's fucking bigot. Neither is excusable, in my opinion.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
31. Honestly, it was the dislike of mexicans that really offended me.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:44 PM
Jun 2014

I have a hispanic name and get that from people and sometimes i accidentally speak spanish, so he irritated me.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
6. Maybe he should have said Hispanic Fundies
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jun 2014

Maybe this church should change it's name-


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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
7. Maybe he should have, but he didn't. I think this guy is a Poe
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jun 2014

and I would be very wary of promoting him.

He's a gigantic racist asshole, or more likely, just playing one. Everything I have seen by him has been despicable.

justhanginon

(3,289 posts)
9. Agreed. What the hell does being Mexican have
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:30 PM
Jun 2014

do with it. Looks like someone trying to get a little film for his you tube site. Phony indignation. I think his foul language to them was to try and get them to react in a bad manner. Yeah, they are annoying but so was he and I don't care about nor would I bring up his ethnicity.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
23. Really? Tell me what exactly calling these americans of hispanic heritage "mexicans"
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:23 PM
Jun 2014

has to do with it.

It's flat out racist.

But, you may agree with the OP that it's greatness!

pinto

(106,886 posts)
14. Racist jerk. I don't see these events where I live. Can see they'd be annoying (noise, repetition).
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:18 PM
Jun 2014

My town has a noise ordinance, iirc. Mainly initiated by loud, overflowing frat parties in local neighborhoods.
In any event, the guy's a bigot. How many times does he say "gangsta!" etc. in reference to the group. And as noted, the Seventh Day folks are very probably fellow citizens in his own city.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
15. People don't like that he confronts the fundies so they scream RACIST!
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:28 PM
Jun 2014

Funny almost....

Trust me, Dusty is no racist...he goes after fundies because they need it-

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
24. This is how RationalWiki describes him:
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:26 PM
Jun 2014
Dusty Smith Atheist who appears to have a bit of an ego problem and is a bit of a jerk, although it's very likely this is all just an act. Cannot go 10 seconds without swearing.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Vlogroll/Controversial_secularists

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
25. I thought he was an act the first time I saw him.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:34 PM
Jun 2014

But I couldn't find anything to substantiate it.

If he is an act, he's pretty good because certain people buy his schtick. They can even seem to overlook the overt racism because they love his message so much.

Thanks for the link.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
18. He can confront evangelicals / fundies, counter them without the bigotry.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:34 PM
Jun 2014

Especially in such a public situation. They both have 1st Amendment rights to free speech. Yet his performance reeks of self promotion, not a serious or civil discussion. It was all a joke, apparently. An internet selfie.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
27. Strangely enough,
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 05:49 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:15 PM - Edit history (1)

the headline on your post does not read, "How to annoy a fundie church. "

The video maker's diatribe repeatedly labels the church members "Mexkin, " strongly suggesting that he's an anti-Hispanic racist and bigot. Your defense of his behavior strongly suggests that you share his views.

And by the way, "Mexkin" and "Meskin" are dead giveaways. Pretty much on the level of the n-word.

You and Dusty can be really proud of yourselves.

Promethean

(468 posts)
26. Dusty's early videos were funny.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jun 2014

However his stance has crossed a line from silly aggressive to angry aggressive. I have stopped following him because of this.

struggle4progress

(118,224 posts)
30. OK. Apparently some atheists are xenophobic bigots.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:47 PM
Jun 2014

That doesn't really surprise me, as I really don't expect atheists to be much different than other people -- and since there are more than enough xenophobic bigots in America, simple statistical arguments would lead us to predict the existence of more than enough xenophobic bigot atheists

So I guess it also doesn't really surprise me that there people who find expressions of xenophobic bigotry refreshing and amusing

But I myself think it smells really bad

goldent

(1,582 posts)
32. The key point to keep in mind is...
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 12:21 AM
Jun 2014

racist/jerk/etc atheists are not that way because they are atheists, rather they are racists/jerks/etc who happen to be atheist. Same argument goes for Christians and other religions.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
34. I think that is exactly the point.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:50 AM
Jun 2014

Just because one chooses a label or a group or an affiliation, it really doesn't mean anything.

My issue here is that someone would post the rantings of a racist jerk and then he and others would applaud it. Using religion or lack of religion to promote bigotry is wrong whichever direction it is flowing.

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