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Related: About this forumSt. Louis archbishop claims he wasn’t sure it was illegal for priests to have sex with kids
The former chancellor gave a deposition last month in a lawsuit that claims the Minnesota archdiocese and the Diocese of Winona created a public nuisance by keeping information on abusive priests secret, reported Minnesota Public Radio.
The 69-year-old Carlson also faces a massive clergy abuse lawsuit in the Archdiocese of St. Louis, where hes served as archbishop since 2009.
One document made public in that case shows more than 100 priests and church employees have been accused of sexual abuse, and the Missouri Supreme Court ordered the archdiocese to turn over their names under seal.
The Minnesota lawsuit was filed by a man who claimed a priest abused him during the 1970s, and Carlson told the plaintiffs attorneys that his understanding of those accusations had changed over the years.
Im not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not, Carlson said. I understand today its a crime.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/10/st-louis-archbishop-claims-he-wasnt-sure-it-was-illegal-for-priests-to-have-sex-with-kids/
Wow. Just wow.
Jesus is proud, I'm sure.
Botany
(70,291 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Now that's a conundrum.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)for child rape and its abetters and enablers is out in force.
rug
(82,333 posts)Don't forget to link to the child rape apologetic posts you claim exist. After all, without evidence, you're simply posting fairy tales.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Are you a closet atheist Rug? You can PM me, you know, if you need to talk or anything.
Julie--here for you
rug
(82,333 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You've always been there for me.
madmom
(9,681 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)madmom
(9,681 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Imagine that.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)You follow it more closely than I do, probably more than the other AA posters! Still, I think a few of your fellow believers can give you a run for your money on that count.
It was a friendly poke rug, wtf? Laugh a little at how you so clearly set yourself up for it and move on like the rest of the human race would.
Julie
rug
(82,333 posts)BTW, I am disappointed at how that thread so clearly missed the mimicry of the language.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Just can't do it, eh? I'm sorry for you my dear. Bleak stuff.
Julie
rug
(82,333 posts)Although you might do better enforcing your group's sop.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...and for the second time this week rug gets hoisted on their own petard....
Fucking brilliant!!
rug
(82,333 posts)By the way, it does not surprise me that you do not recognize the usual talking points even when rubbed in your own face.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...and wound up with egg on your face...
Back for more?
rug
(82,333 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)I am shocked, SHOCKED i tell ya'....
Lesson number one, when in a hole: Stop digging.
rug
(82,333 posts)Here's a timely remedy.
http://www.educationworld.com/summer_reading/3rd_grade.shtml
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)So, let's just keep going with the condescension shall we?
rug
(82,333 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)... you know, about how believing in something that has ZERO proof of existence is rational, but requiring evidence isn't....
Or you could just tell us more about the fairy tales I keep hearing about...
rug
(82,333 posts)But not quite as bad as sophomore level philosophical "challenges".
The frantic use of smileys is just embarrassing.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Got it...
rug
(82,333 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Your intellectual dishonesty does all of the talking that's needed...
Bye now!!
rug
(82,333 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)..is here FOREVER...
Enjoy!
rug
(82,333 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...But please do tell me more about those fairy tales of yours....
rug
(82,333 posts)Although it's oddly worded and its syntax is fucked up.
The rest of what you typed yesterday - as well as today - is simply posturing for reasons unknown, beyond that you find it reassuring.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...you uses awkward syntax, and the occasional fancy word or phrase, to give the appearance to their fan club that they are smarter than they actually are, and that they are not, in fact, almost entirely full of shit.
So, you can either explain how you consider someone that believes in mythical beings as being rational, but those that require proof of the existence of said beings as irrational, or you can keep dodging the question, slink off as you did yesterday, or just come out with it and admit that you are just full of shit and can't back up what you have said.
Oh, and while we're at it, you are STILL acting like a condescending knowitall, which according to YOU, is a major character flaw.
Your best move is to just admit you have been outed, and then bugger off...
Next?
rug
(82,333 posts)I could point out the erroneous assumptions implicit in your question, then point out that telling the person to whom you're posing the question that he is full of shit (which may or may not contradict the other description of pseudo-intellectual poseur) undercuts the certainty of the question. While doing so I could also point out how unoriginal the question is, being typed simultaneously and triumphantly on hundreds of other keyboards, and could then point out how your accusation of me being a condescending knowitall (sic) is comparable to tossing a hand grenade soaked in glue.
But I won't.
I'll simply give your words back to you, "bugger off... "
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...and still you dodge the question...besides, you have said that "without evidence, it's just fairy tales.."
So which is it? You were wrong when you said you had to have evidence, or you were wrong when you said you DON'T need evidence..?
One last try sport, and then I'm done with you...
rug
(82,333 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)You're the one that looks like a tosser...
rug
(82,333 posts)EvilAL
(1,437 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)in their protective secret religious mens club as much as we have guessed, complete with no recognition of reality in the outside world... OR...
..He's a liar. I wonder where Archbishops go to confess their own possibly mortal sins? Never mind, it doesn't matter anyway.
rug
(82,333 posts)Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Our Archdiocese is just fucked up, oh and they released a statement about this:
ON EDIT: Dammit, wrong link, here:
http://archstl.org/commoffice/press-release/2014/archdiocese-st-louis-addresses-arch
I'll keep the second link, its the actual court document.
http://www.archspm.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/158765rcarlson05232014_Full_Redacted.pdf
Basically they are claiming that he is answering a different question entirely, while the video plainly shows otherwise.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)It is simply not possible to live in a modern society and not know this. He's lying.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Child rape, "a crime or not?" Gee, there was just no way to know back in the dark ages of the 1970s.
And these men think they have the right to lecture everyone else - RCC member or not - on how we get to live our lives.
LuvLoogie
(6,855 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Really...this is a surprise?