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Related: About this forumNo 'amen,' but nonbeliever wins praise for his invocation
By Stephen Hudak and Martin E. Comas, Orlando Sentinel
6:20 p.m. EDT, June 18, 2014
All that was missing from David Williamson's invocation Monday was an "amen."
The founder of the Central Florida Freethought Community, an association of "nonbelievers" and a chapter of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, delivered the ceremonial opening to Monday's meeting of the Osceola County Commission, a role almost always filled by clergy, usually Christian clergy.
He made no mention of God or faith or blessings, as prayerful invocations traditionally do, nor did he urge those assembled for the public meeting to bow their heads though many did, perhaps out of habit.
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Secular invocations also are set to be delivered at Orlando City Council on Monday; Volusia County Council on July 3; Groveland City Council on July 7; Winter Park City Commission on July 14; Eustis City Commission on July 17; Lake County Commission on Aug. 26 and Tavares City Council on Dec. 3.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-atheist-prayer-opens-osceola-meeting-20140618,0,833269.story
longship
(40,416 posts)Commission chair Hawkins:
Aha! The old Pascal's wager. I prefer Bertrand Russell's response. Confronted by God, Russell would say, "But sir, you did not provide us sufficient evidence." (A paraphrase.)
In my experience, Pascal's wager often comes up in discussions with Christian believers. I actually like it when it does. It really offers an opportunity to have an interesting dialog that can go far for both sides of the discussion. The believer can better understand my position, and hopefully I can understand theirs.
Most importantly, believers somehow think that Pascal's wager (few know it by that name) is a trump card. I revel in respectfully disabusing them of that belief because I truly believe that when one understands it from both perspectives, it helps all concerned.
I sincerely hope that there (sheesh! Typos) is some sunshine in the Greece case. If there is, this kind of thing as is related in this story may be it.
R&K
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(82,333 posts)Although I really don't like public displays of piety be they religious, secular, civic or patriotic.
longship
(40,416 posts)The religious who want prayer everywhere may be hoisted on their own petard. They now have to include secular pronouncements in the mix. And Wickens, and Hindus. And... HORRORS! Muslim. My only hope is that they reap the whirlwind on this. They have to accept it all.
Still, I would prefer to have none of it.