speech.....is this the free speech and freedom of assembly that Americans so cherish?

What happened to laws against public insurrection and incitement....are those also non-existent now that the mass media has riled up enough folks to blindly fear everyone in a religion of a billion people?

I noticed that St. Louis isn't mentioned at all, and from what I can gather, we have at least as many Muslims here as in Dearborn.

It could be we are very tolerant, or it could be that our Muslims are largely white(Bosnians), rather than Arab or Black.

Actually, even Wikipedia seems to show either an oversight, an inaccuracy or a bias in this example.

Here's an article on Wikipedia about Islam in the United States:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #999999 inset;"]By city

New York City had the largest number of Muslims with 69,985. In 2000, Dearborn, Michigan ranked second with 29,181, and Los Angeles ranked third with 25,673; although Paterson, New Jersey, in the New York City Metropolitan Area, was estimated to have become home to 25,000 to 30,000 Muslims as of 2011. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania was estimated to have 30,000 to 50,000 Muslims as of 2012.[113] Paterson, New Jersey has been nicknamed Little Ramallah and contains a neighborhood with the same name, with an Arab American population estimated as high as 20,000 in 2015.[114]

And here's the article on the history of Bosnians in St. Louis:

[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #999999 inset;"]Demographics

As of 2013 there were 70,000 Bosnians in St. Louis. This is the largest population of Bosnians in the United States and the largest Bosnian population outside of Europe.[3] Most are Bosniak and Muslims.

The highest concentrations of Bosnians is in the neighborhood of Bevo Mill, Affton, Mehlville and Oakville of south St. Louis County[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Bosnians_in_St._Louis

Granted, I'm comparing a religion with a nationality, however, demographically, that nationality is majority Muslim. Even if less than half the Bosnian refugees are Muslim, it still would put St. Louis or at least its Metro Area in the top 3 cities that host Muslims in the country.

But, here's where things differ, I'll give an example with myself, I was at Walgreens a while ago, to pick up a prescription, I also picked up some Dora3 croissant and some Torticas. So I went up to the Pharmacy counter to checkout, and the woman behind the counter said she loves the Croissants as well, and I went on a little mini-rant saying how awesome it was that Bosnians settled here, to allow us to be able to get international chocolates at Walgreens and local grocers without paying outrageous prices and markups at "international vendors" etc.

That's when she revealed to me that she was Bosnian, having immigrated here in the late 1990s as a teen. She had virtually no accent that I could tell, she didn't where a hijab or any hair covering, and she was, of course, white. Needless to say, I was a little embarrassed, though she said we are cool.

I think that makes the Muslims here a harder target, yes they could protest outside the Mosques here, of which we have plenty, and more being built year after year, but its hard to think of these people as the "other" when they look white Americans. To these racists fucks, these recent immigrants aren't foreign looking enough.

in as many cities as possible.

While a share of these demonstrators might have a racist motivation,

the underlying concern -legitimate in my view- is over Islam itself.

That ideology calls for the death of gays, stoming of adulterers and chopping hands of thieves.

So the attitude of these demonstrators is wrong, but the concern over the ideology remains

aren't a problem.

Should we criticize the ideologies and beliefs, hell yes, but I guess I'm just used to the Muslims in my area, are the same as the Catholics and most Christians, being "Cafeteria Muslims".

I just don't see the point of protesting in front of Mosques with no regard as to what the members of said Mosque actually believe. It would be like protesting in front of all Christian churches, including ones like the MCC for being homophobic.

If they were protesting specific Imams or extremist groups, that would be one thing, equivalent to protesting against the Westboro Baptist Church, but it doesn't appear they are doing that. In fact, from what I can tell, this is an attempt to marginalize and intimidate against a minority group for no good reason.

What is needed is to expose the obviously shaky pillars of Islam (and religions)

The prophet most cited in the Quran, Moses, never existed.

Better still, Muhammad is supposed to have met the imaginary 'Adam'

Add to it that Nuhammad had sex with a -probably not nubile- 9yo, et voila.

(To debunk Christianity, a genealogy of the gospels should suffice)

What's needed is to pool resources and advertise those facts.

Less confrontational, hitting at the heart of the problem of religions.

not people, regardless of context, whether its shaking the foundation of a faith in Christ, Yahweh or Mohammad or attacking political and/or other social beliefs I find objectionable. Beliefs and ideas should never be held in reverence, or given respect, unless they stand up to scrutiny.

What I do recognize though is that people are much more complicated than their beliefs, outside of some extremists, who traded complexity for what they would call "clarity" usually in their religious or political beliefs. Not to mention that everyone should have a right to their beliefs as long as they don't harm anyone else.

Not to mention that everyone should have a right to their beliefs as long as they don't harm anyone else.

They feel the need to force their filthy Gods of Metal on those who they hate.

I mean, do you have a license for that thing or what? Why do you need it at all?

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But this atheist is sick of having their filthy religion imposed on others.

Let them worship at the alter of the NRA in private, not in public.

They are imposing their filthy religion on folks who may not worship their Gods of Metal, and who may not pray at the alter of the NRA.

That's a blatant violation of the Religious Freedoms of their chosen victims.

Your worship of your God is no better than any others.

Your prosetylizing about your religion is just like the rest.

But keep blasting away with that faith gun.

You should have that looked at.

But keep fighting the good fight. You're just off-target, that's all.

You should have that looked at.