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rug

(82,333 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:57 PM Sep 2012

Can the Godless Market Evolve Beyond Bumper Stickers?

By Karen E. Klein on September 07, 2012

Religiosity has declined in the U.S. by 13 percent since 2005, according to a new poll (PDF). The Millennial generation, born between 1981 and 2000, is the least religious yet, with one in four identifying themselves as religiously unaffiliated, atheist, or agnostic in a 2010 PewResearchCenter survey. That works out to about 15 million Americans who describe themselves as “convinced atheists,” more than many mainline Protestant denominations, Jews, or Muslims.

Is there a market for merchandise for the godless? Retailers who cater to evangelical Christians with items including books, apparel, gifts, and Bibles represent $4.63 billion annually, according to the Association for Christian Retail. Those who sell to nonbelievers tend to be small business owners who are true nonbelievers. While bumper stickers and T-shirts are obvious favorites, books about evolution, educational games for children, and science-themed jewelry also hold appeal, says Derek Colanduno, an Atlanta computer programmer who hosts a podcast for skeptics.

The relative newness of the modern freethought movement, a collection of secular-minded organizations and nontheistic individuals, is partly responsible for the immaturity of the business market. It was Internet message boards, blogs, and podcasts that brought together younger skeptical and science-minded individuals to establish communities and attend regular conferences, says Colanduno. “Before the Internet, it was the old guard, the old white-haired men meeting in peoples’ basements,” he says.

The largest such conference is the Amaz!ng Meeting, hosted by the James Randi Educational Foundation, a nonprofit founded by magician and debunker James Randi in 1996. It hosts conferences around the world; its annual Las Vegas gathering drew about 1,200 in early July, along with 20 nonprofit and for-profit vendors, says the group’s president, D.J. Grothe. “There are a growing number of businesses that cater to skeptics and the larger community of reason,” he says, noting that attendees make up a well-educated, well-off niche market. “This is a subculture that really is hungry and has money to play with.”

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-07/can-the-godless-market-evolve-beyond-bumper-stickers

Capitalism is the ultimate cockroach. It survives anything.

So far.

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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
1. What "Godless Market?"
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 03:48 PM
Sep 2012

We buy the same stuff everyone else does. We make choices based on our interests and needs. What market will you discuss next? Atheism is not a lifestyle. It is simply what one believes or doesn't believe. Beyond that, there is no "Godless Market." I buy books. I buy books I want to read. Very rarely do I buy books about atheism. The subject doesn't interest me, since it is so simple. I don't buy shirts that say "Atheist" on them. In fact my shirts say nothing which expressed exactly my beliefs in that regard.

More mindless atheist bashing...

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. These, off the top of my head.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 06:51 PM
Sep 2012
http://4atheists.com/market.cfm?category=Services&subcategory=Travel

http://www.samharris.org/

http://www.zazzle.com/atheist+gifts

http://old.richarddawkins.net/pages/books

http://www.atheists-online.com/

You're rather opinionated for one who says "The subject doesn't interest me".

Face it, when humans adhere to a particular intellectual conclusion, organize around that conclusion, and advocate for that conclusion, it takes on all the hallmarks of any other human endeavor.

It's odd that you finf that to be "more mindless atheist bashing..."

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
3. I didn't say people aren't attempting to market to that segment.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:45 PM
Sep 2012

As for having opinions, yes I do. Very strong ones. Is that a problem?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. To have an opinion on something that, as you state, doesn't interest you, is peculiar.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:49 PM
Sep 2012

Disinterest often results in misinformation which often results in uninformed opinions.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
6. That I am not interested does not mean I am not aware.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:33 PM
Sep 2012

My opinions are my opinions, and it is not for you to judge whether I should have them or not.

There are goods related to atheism. I am not interested in purchasing them, because atheism just is. It requires no merchandise. There are goods relating to almost anything you can mention. That's not really a worthwhile subject for a discussion, as far as I am concerned. There is no "Athiest Market." There are simply goods relating to atheism. Some people buy them, or they would not exist, but they are sold in many places not related in any way to atheism. Barnes and Noble, Amazon...many places.

Are there specialty websites for Atheist goods? Why, yes, there are. There are specialty websites for parts for 20 year old Volvos as well. Neither qualifies as a "Market."

Your extreme interest in finding and posting articles about atheism is puzzling. It seem to be your primary activity in the Religion Group.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
7. I'm interested, not disinterested.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:36 PM
Sep 2012

You should read all the posts, not just the ones on atheism.

In any event, the question is not judging whether you have opinions but judging those opinions.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
5. There is definitely a market there and an opportunity for smart entrepreneurs to lock it up.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:29 PM
Sep 2012

Nothing wrong with that. Any groups that can counter the christian right is a-ok with me.

rexcat

(3,622 posts)
8. You miss the point...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:14 AM
Sep 2012

it is not just to counter right-wing christians but all religion.

Of course since I am on full ignore from cbayer this comment is for everyone else!

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