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Sunday's Doonesbury - Science Education in Louisiana (Original Post) n2doc Sep 2012 OP
Proud to be the first to K&R!!!! krispos42 Sep 2012 #1
Wondering liberalmike27 Sep 2012 #12
Proud to be the 165th to K&R! (Or thereabouts!) calimary Sep 2012 #31
171 ... and yeah, I am proud of it! etherealtruth Sep 2012 #34
thanks for posting rsweets Sep 2012 #2
Perfect! K&R! Webster Green Sep 2012 #3
K&R nt avebury Sep 2012 #4
An oldie but a goodie Randomthought Sep 2012 #5
But why didn't the animals get sick from the viruses? socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #6
Trudeau ROCKS! Astazia Sep 2012 #7
I have no problem with LA teaching evolution in the classroom Smilo Sep 2012 #8
LOL. Belief systems in a science class! Overseas Sep 2012 #13
where it all belongs (cultural beliefs) is social studies lunasun Sep 2012 #45
Religion doesn't belong in ANY science class. EVER. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #19
uh - no. GoneOffShore Sep 2012 #20
WTF? Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #32
lol amuse bouche Sep 2012 #37
Noah: Read the (much older) Epic of Gilgamesh for the TRUE story of The Flood panzerfaust Sep 2012 #9
great heaven05 Sep 2012 #11
In a nutshell, the "controversy" is between the religions. nt. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #18
Gourds must have been a great deal larger back then... n/t jtuck004 Sep 2012 #25
Thank you, panzerfaust for the mini social studies lesson. DippyDem Sep 2012 #28
hoot heaven05 Sep 2012 #10
Sad K&R. I watched "No Dinosaurs in Heaven" about teachers getting certified to teach science Overseas Sep 2012 #14
about those dinosaurs... pokerfan Sep 2012 #22
Aha! Overseas Sep 2012 #29
Maybe we should teach the Onondaga version,... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #15
Me too! riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #16
"Please stop. I'd like to get into a good college." -- nailed it. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #17
One Christian college started teaching evolution so their students could go to grad school yurbud Sep 2012 #23
"... We will never have the elite, smart people on our side ..." jtuck004 Sep 2012 #26
collectively without the evil government, so it will never match the clout of the wealthy yurbud Sep 2012 #27
Trudeau is a national treasure rurallib Sep 2012 #21
My son will soon be a science teacher Freddie Sep 2012 #24
Then for God's sake, do not allow too many Republicans to take office in your state. juajen Sep 2012 #40
oh gaud. onethatcares Sep 2012 #30
Had me at Panel Two Maynar Sep 2012 #33
Creationists are about as laughable...... AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #35
An Alternative Theory for Biology: Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #36
Hey now! How many times do I have to tell ya. Don't pick on Louisiana. However, juajen Sep 2012 #38
Well done doonesbury tavalon Sep 2012 #39
Isn't Jindal Catholic? modrepub Sep 2012 #41
You two HIV viruses can come. . .the rest of you go die! Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 #42
Was this a rerun or did he use this gag before? Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2012 #43
Brilliant! nt valerief Sep 2012 #44
Scince not religion should be taught in school. mgardener Sep 2012 #46

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
12. Wondering
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:52 AM
Sep 2012

Has this week's daily comics been a repeat of the red (devil?)'s book deal?

I'm wondering if our paper has been censuring Doonesbury's since it's reprinting those comics leading up to his book deal, with the red-headed woman talking to him in the publisher's office? I've yet to see today's.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
6. But why didn't the animals get sick from the viruses?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:18 AM
Sep 2012

Maybe God didn't create the viruses yet...

How come the bible only talks about things that people knew about at that time in history?

Maybe God was following "the prime directive" and not letting people know things that were too advanced for them to understand.

How come there isn't a chapter in the bible on surgery - we could have used a head start.

How come....

Never mind....

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
8. I have no problem with LA teaching evolution in the classroom
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

providing they also teach the top ten religions and mention that many millions of people on earth have other belief systems.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
19. Religion doesn't belong in ANY science class. EVER.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:30 PM
Sep 2012

Doesn't matter how much evolution they teach.

Religion is cultural and belongs in social studies.

GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
20. uh - no.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:36 PM
Sep 2012

Religion is not science.
Will never be science.
Can never be science.
Science is a method, not a belief.
Religion is a belief, not a method to figure things out. And don't give me guff about it being a guide to life. It's not that either.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
32. WTF?
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:42 PM
Sep 2012

What do "other belief systems" have to do with science? Science is separate and above mythology. It relies on facts, not ancient fairy tales.

 

panzerfaust

(2,818 posts)
9. Noah: Read the (much older) Epic of Gilgamesh for the TRUE story of The Flood
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

This epic being the obvious source for what is thus the demonstratively corrupted, and therefore inaccurate, Biblical account of the same tale.



I have no doubt that the Great State of Louisiana will see that this true, original version is taught as well.

Oh, and then there is the Havasupai flood story - which explains how the Grand Canyon came to be, as a result of a world-wide flood - in which only a single woman, in a log canoe, managed to survive and, as she was pregnant, she became mother of all people.

And let us also teach the Chinese Hei Miao story of the great flood which destroyed all the world and downed everyone save a brother and sister. They survived in a gourd boat, and, with great misgivings, they married and had a single child - born malformed which so disgusted them that they cut it into pieces and threw the pieces on the ground. In the morning, they discovered that the dismembered bits had each turned into all the people of the earth.

And then ... well, we could be here a long time.

Given the many explanations of creation and destruction it hardly seems fair for Louisiana to only present the limited, linear thinking of scientists, and the creation myth of a single Mideastern tribe - but should "Teach the Controversy" and also present all of the other creation/destruction myths of the world: Many of which are older, and perhaps more interesting, than those of the Abrahamic tradition.



Just a thought.





Overseas

(12,121 posts)
14. Sad K&R. I watched "No Dinosaurs in Heaven" about teachers getting certified to teach science
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:00 PM
Sep 2012

so that they can ignore science and teach religion in science class.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
15. Maybe we should teach the Onondaga version,...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:02 PM
Sep 2012

The one where the Great Chief pulls up a tree in Skyland and his wife looks into the hole and sees a world with nothing but water below, then she falls in and is saved by flocks of geese that cushion her fall until a great turtle with mud and earth on it's back provided her a place to walk and she became Mother Earth and the back of the turtle grew and grew until it became what it is today,...North America.

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BTW: She was pregnant at the time she fell and gave birth to all the land animals including us and she magically cast seeds to create all plant life.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
23. One Christian college started teaching evolution so their students could go to grad school
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:31 PM
Sep 2012

in the sciences.

They did a great episode of a series on Evolution on PBS about it.

What was really painful was seeing these kids who were curious about science try to explain what they were learning to their parents and be met with dogmatic bumper sticker one liners and treated like they were talking about the joys of smoking crack or something.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
26. "... We will never have the elite, smart people on our side ..."
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:52 PM
Sep 2012

Rick Santorum

He also called for people to build America "collectively" in the same paragraph, Here.

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
21. Trudeau is a national treasure
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:04 PM
Sep 2012

he has been doing this for 40+ years always hitting contemporary politics right in the gut.

Freddie

(9,257 posts)
24. My son will soon be a science teacher
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:33 PM
Sep 2012

Student teaching now--graduates in Dec.
Will be certified to teach biology & general science.
This stuff is precisely why he is a science teacher! He intends to teach actual science. Thankfully here in PA no one will make him teach fables that pass for "science" at least not yet.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
40. Then for God's sake, do not allow too many Republicans to take office in your state.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:46 AM
Sep 2012

They don't believe these things themselves. They just need to attract people who are ignorant so they can tell them anything and they will believe it. They succeed in a lot of Southern states, and, I hear, that it is not limited to the South. Beware of them trying to take over school boards at all levels. This is how they begin and it has been very successful. It's very sad, as the children suffer.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
35. Creationists are about as laughable......
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:46 PM
Sep 2012

as people who believe that eugenics has any validity whatsoever, or that "superior" and "inferior" races exist.....although, at least some of them don't go quite that far(well, some don't. 'Christian' 'Identity' cultists and other fringe psychopaths on the other hand.....)

juajen

(8,515 posts)
38. Hey now! How many times do I have to tell ya. Don't pick on Louisiana. However,
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:36 AM
Sep 2012

our state is not doing well under Jindal. Shocker eh?

modrepub

(3,491 posts)
41. Isn't Jindal Catholic?
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:39 AM
Sep 2012

and hasn't the Catholic Church grudgingly recognized the merits of evolution?!?

mgardener

(1,812 posts)
46. Scince not religion should be taught in school.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:27 AM
Sep 2012

Those poor, poor kids.
Yep, rick was right. Smart people will never be on their side.

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