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http://www.kitco.com/ind/Albrecht/2014-06-18-Palladium-Used-To-Transform-Radioactive-Waste-Into-Rare-Earth-Element.htmlWednesday June 18, 2014 11:44
Events like Fukushima are urgent reminders of the need to develop new technologies to contain or neutralize radioactivity.
Dr. Yasuhiro Iwamura of the Advanced Technology Research Center at Mitsubishi Heavy Industries of Japan recently presented groundbreaking successes at a conference at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). His new process (see schematic below) uses a permeable palladium film to transmute radioactive cesium into praseodymium.
Praseodymium is a rare earth element used to produce high strength metal for aircraft engines; it is also used as a UV absorbing colorant in glass, and boosts the performance of neodymium in magnets, which are used in electric motors.
Tech Metals Insider spoke with Dr. Iwamura to learn more about the process and its implications.
Our approach can be characterized by the permeation of D2 (deuterium) gas through the nano-structured Pd complex and the addition of an element that is specifically targeted to be transmuted, he said. Permeation of deuterium is attained by exposing one side of the Pd multilayer thin film to D2 gas while maintaining the other side under vacuum conditions.
More at the link.
I don't see how the energetics work out. (Or anything else, but I'll start stumbling there, with energy.)
kickysnana
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(12,017 posts)sakabatou
(42,141 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)There's not even a balanced nuclear equation -- cesium (element 55) needs to absorb at least four protons to from praseodymium (element 59), with no explanation at to how deuterium (with one proton and one neutron per nucleus) is supposed to do this. The device shown looks like something designed for catalytic hydrogenation, but nuclear reactions have activation barriers thousands of times higher than chemical reactions. If deuterons had been accelerated to a few tens of MeV in a cyclotron and used to bombard Cs, one might expect a little transmutation to Ba (element 56), or even La (element 57) -- but Pr ??
This is going to look as foolish as claims for cold fusion -- which is very much what it is claimed to be.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)I read it backwards, and had the palladium being the (Extremely expensive) element being removed, instead of the cesium.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,272 posts)though they went to Mitsubishi and agreed their results made it look like it was happening; they suggested it could be contamination.
http://iccf9.global.tsinghua.edu.cn/lenr%20home%20page/PDetail4.htm#1225
The new claim seems to be that Toshiba has replicated it.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)I agree that it would be nice to have a better story about what's going on.
But you have to remember we are already dealing with an unstable nucleus. There could be something going on with Cs-137's beta decay and gamma-ray emissions. Those may make it possible to transmute the Cs without slamming the D2 into the nucleus.
We'll see if this story holds up.