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Takket

(21,529 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:27 PM Jun 2014

Can i sue a religion I was not part of?

Can I sue my spouse’s religion for pain and suffering they cause me? I’ve looked on line and it is pretty much impossible to sue a religion you were a member of. My wife was a Jehovah Witness and was excommunicated. Because of this fact our daughter (who is an active member) will no longer speak to us and the pain of this exacerbates a psychiatric medical condition my wife has. SHE cannot sue the religion because as a former member she is subject to their “rulings”. I however was NEVER part of the religion. Because of their rules I now have lost contact with my daughter and have to deal with the emotional turmoil this causes my wife which brings stress into my life that otherwise would not be there.

Think of it similarly to having your spouse lose their legs in a car accident. You as the spouse now have to deal with all the consequences of being married to someone with no legs. Even though you were not in the car accident, are you entitled to monetary damages because you now have to become a caregiver for your spouse? As well as the emotional pain of losing a fully functional spouse? I love my spouse and seeing her psychiatric conditioned worsened effects MY quality of life as well.

Do I have any kind of a case here, or am I just going to get “separation of church and state” from any court I try to bring this to?

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Can i sue a religion I was not part of? (Original Post) Takket Jun 2014 OP
I don't see how they can be immune to lawsuit from your wife AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #1
She was baptized Takket Jun 2014 #2
Nope. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2014 #3
Isn't "Honor thy mother and thy father" one of the 10 commandments? LiberalEsto Jun 2014 #4
Oh, if only you could! Warpy Jun 2014 #5
Your daughter is lost to you while she still believes that rubbish. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #6
Sorry, but that is a really clueless post. Warpy Jun 2014 #7
You can't just shut it off AlbertCat Jun 2014 #8
well, let me add this... Takket Jun 2014 #9
I would love to see this lawsuit go through the courts Curmudgeoness Jun 2014 #10
Ask this Question at Heather MC Jun 2014 #11

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
1. I don't see how they can be immune to lawsuit from your wife
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jun 2014

just because she was a former member? Did she sign something that says she agrees not to sue or something?

Takket

(21,529 posts)
2. She was baptized
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jun 2014

I've looked this up on line and its pretty clear... she can't sue if nothing illegal is being done.

I'm just wondering if I can sue them.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
3. Nope.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jun 2014

To my knowledge, even lawsuits arising from wrongful excommunications have been unsuccessful in court.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
4. Isn't "Honor thy mother and thy father" one of the 10 commandments?
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:15 PM
Jun 2014

There seem to be altogether too many religious organizations that encourage people to shun family members because of religious differences.

How very "godly" of your daughter and her religious organization.

About your question: call your county bar association and ask if they have a lawyer referral service. For around $60, depending on your location, you may be able to get a half hour consultation with a lawyer.

You could also contact a group like Americans for Religious Liberty. Link: http://www.arlinc.org/about/officers.html

Warpy

(111,175 posts)
5. Oh, if only you could!
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:43 PM
Jun 2014

Parents in the 70s tried to sue to get their kids out of cults and failed because the courts are still scared of the Sky Daddy, even if the cults were utterly monstrous like the Jim Jones bunch.

Your daughter is lost to you while she still believes that rubbish. Your best hope is that the pain of separation is greater than the pain of separation from the JWs at some point, especially when her own children start asking if they have a grandma and grandpa.

Excommunication and shunning break up families in a lot of established religions. It's one of the most potent tools they have to keep everybody in line.

It's vile but you'll have to look outside the courts for redress.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
6. Your daughter is lost to you while she still believes that rubbish.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:54 PM
Jun 2014

Really.... do you want her back? I mean, SHE has a choice, y'know.

Just because people are family, it doesn't mean you have to love each other or even get along.

A lawsuit just seems like prolonging and exasperating the problem. Move on....

Warpy

(111,175 posts)
7. Sorry, but that is a really clueless post.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jun 2014

It ignores the bond parents have with their children. You can't just shut it off because some screwball religion finds it inconvenient.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
8. You can't just shut it off
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jun 2014

but you can move on.... and deal with it.

It's not the Mother's fault the Daughter is so impossible.

And I still think a lawsuit is prolonging the problem.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
9. well, let me add this...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:24 PM
Jun 2014

let me add this which makes it more complicated... my daughter is actually my step daughter. she lives with her step mother and my wife's first husband in another state. we all lived together and shared custody in Michigan until two years ago when they moved. We had primary custody and at her request, we allowed her to move out of state with her father because she wanted to go out west and promised to stay in contact with us and visit. needless to say she lied. she cut my wife off about a month later.

So it is not like she is all alone and without a family. She turned 18, 6 months ago and is now a legal adult.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. I would love to see this lawsuit go through the courts
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jun 2014

but I would think that it would be tilting at windmills. I have no legal expertise, so I have no idea how it would work. But then again, every step in the right direction had to start somewhere. If I were willing to take this to the limit, I would find a lawyer who works for atheist/agnostic rights....but just remember how many years these sort of cases can take.

Remember that it took almost 10 years for the Loving v. Virginia case to be settled in the Supreme Court to allow a black and a white to be legally married.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
11. Ask this Question at
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:24 PM
Jun 2014

Www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com

There maybe some knowledable ex-jdubs that can help you. Also many people there are going through this. The site maybe a great place for you and your wife to help you through this.

I was raised JDub, i left before getting baptized. This religion is really shitty.

My heart goes out to you and your wife.

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