Skepticism, Science & Pseudoscience

Orrex

(63,173 posts) Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:08 PM Mar 2016

I'm sick of the Gish Gallop

It happens in every single thread about GMOs or autism/vaccines or dead bees and so on.

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I'm sick of the Gish Gallop (Original Post) Orrex Mar 2016 OP

You aren't the only one. Archae Mar 2016 #1

And when I post an excerpt, you can be damn sure that I read every word of it Orrex Mar 2016 #2

It got it's name from Duane Gish, the late creationist. Archae Mar 2016 #3

Yeah, it's a variation on the old classic: Orrex Mar 2016 #4

You're doing well. HuckleB Mar 2016 #5

Archae

(46,301 posts)

1. You aren't the only one.

Reply to Orrex (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:13 PM

Mar 2016

The anti-GMO people are the worst.

"All we want is labeling..."

Meanwhile they and their organic gurus are putting out so much propaganda about GMO's.

Orrex

(63,173 posts)

2. And when I post an excerpt, you can be damn sure that I read every word of it

Reply to Archae (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:17 PM

Mar 2016

Such an excerpt will be 150 words, tops. I certainly don't post a thousand word screed with a few selectively highlighted points, expecting my opponent to read, digest and refute the entirety of it. That's simply irresponsible, and it's dreadful presentation.

It also speaks of a failure to engage on the subject sincerely, a transparent effort to overwhelm by brute force.

The tactic is also popular among certain conspiracy theorists...

Archae

(46,301 posts)

3. It got it's name from Duane Gish, the late creationist.

Reply to Orrex (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:23 PM

Mar 2016

He'd bomb so much misinformation and lies into debates, it was nearly impossible to get any actual facts and science across.

Orrex

(63,173 posts)

4. Yeah, it's a variation on the old classic:

Reply to Archae (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:43 PM

Mar 2016

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit."

I'm dealing with one right now, in fact.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)

5. You're doing well.

Reply to Orrex (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 04:23 PM

Mar 2016

That one is famous for anti-vax gallops, and for just about every other pseudoscience stance around. I honestly feel like their should be a consequence for repeatedly promoting such vile nonsense.

I see that poster tossed Benbrool at you. That poster has certainly seen why Benbrook is not viable, but...

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