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Am I the only one.... (Original Post) lexw Sep 2012 OP
Unfortunately jpbollma Sep 2012 #1
Repugs are totally f***** up, elleng Sep 2012 #2
With this candidate truebluegreen Sep 2012 #5
indeed davidb19766 Sep 2012 #12
Nope, usually things are exactly as they seem Doctor Jack Sep 2012 #3
Things are not usually as they seem TroyD Sep 2012 #9
It definitely is not a done deal. I like odds, but still very concerned. Hoyt Sep 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #6
I don't think Rmoney has a chance now, if he ever really did... truebluegreen Sep 2012 #7
Easy? I think not. longship Sep 2012 #8
I'm still donating.... lexw Sep 2012 #10
Reminds me of the year Ann Richards was elected governor of Texas. mykpart Sep 2012 #11
People run horrible campaigns... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #13

jpbollma

(552 posts)
1. Unfortunately
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:17 AM
Sep 2012

Don't get too excited. We have a lot of ad gold and a great president for the debates, but people are hurting. I still don't think it will be a landslide. People want to blame someone.

elleng

(130,126 posts)
2. Repugs are totally f***** up,
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:18 AM
Sep 2012

but they've got t-buggers AND strong propaganda machine AND many approaches to steal elections. If things were 'normal,' it would be 'easy,' but this ain't normal.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
5. With this candidate
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:25 AM
Sep 2012

I don't think anything would be easy for them. The only things that would be harder would be any of the others!

Remember when the biggest joke of the campaign was that McCain saw RMoney's tax returns and picked Sarah Palin? Incredibly, it seems he was right.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
3. Nope, usually things are exactly as they seem
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:21 AM
Sep 2012

We have a saying in medicine "if you hear hoof beats, think horse and not zebra". The point is not to over think things, not to manipulate evidence to find a complicated explanation, when a much more likely answer is staring you in the face. In this case, I think it is as simple as Romney is a total fuck up, he can't do anything right, and his campaign has entered its "death throes" stage, to borrow a phrase from our favorite Republican vice president.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
9. Things are not usually as they seem
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:58 AM
Sep 2012

I have to totally disagree.

I am very much a believer in darker forces being at work in many events (eg. JFK assassination). In events like that, nothing will convince me otherwise after what I have read, researched & seen.

However, in a case like this, it's possible that there may not be anything sinister going on.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. It definitely is not a done deal. I like odds, but still very concerned.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:25 AM
Sep 2012

Stakes are high.

I thought Kerry had it right up till Bin Laden tape spooked folks days before election.

Felt better about chances this week, though.

Response to lexw (Original post)

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
7. I don't think Rmoney has a chance now, if he ever really did...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:27 AM
Sep 2012

but the downballot races are looming large: we have to retain control of the Senate and if possible regain the House.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. Easy? I think not.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:31 AM
Sep 2012

We are still weeks from the election.

No!!!! The apparent ease is not a grand conspiracy, a rope-a-dope, by the Republics.

No!!! Rove and Cheney are not at an undisclosed location tweaking the dials of their wonderful politics machine.

Sometimes a political party is in a decidedly inferior position. Sometimes you cannot fool all the people. These situations inevitably come up due to the vagaries of politics.

But it seems that this is true this year. The Republic Party is going to lose at the top of the ticket. What we Democrats have to do is to make sure that this victory includes Democratic candidates up and down the ballot.

We've got a lot of fucking work to do. We can leverage this Republic meltdown by keeping not only the White House, but the Senate, and putting a Democrat as Speaker of the House.

I have no money to donate. But I have time to phone bank, which I will be doing as often as I can before November 6.

We will probably win this thing. But, we can really win big if we all work hard. We have 150,000 members here (maybe more). What can't we do with that number of activists?

lexw

(804 posts)
10. I'm still donating....
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:31 AM
Sep 2012

I donated in 2008, and this one as well.
I'm just paranoid that we're being setup for something. But why the hell worry, I'm seeing. Just press forward.
Thanks for the phone work! I think that's more important: there are less folks doing that!

mykpart

(3,879 posts)
11. Reminds me of the year Ann Richards was elected governor of Texas.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 02:00 AM
Sep 2012

Her opponent Clayton Williams couldn't seem to keep his foot out of his mouth. One of his most infamous sayings was, "It's like rape; if you know it's inevitable, you might as well just relax and enjoy it."

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
13. People run horrible campaigns...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:10 AM
Sep 2012

I'm surprised so many Democrats are surprised that a presidential campaign can be so poorly run. I say I'm surprised because you'd think, after years of being Democrats, they'd know what bad campaigns are all about.

In 1984, I bet some Republicans couldn't believe the Democrats were actually going to nominate the vice president of a president who, four years prior, lost in a landslide and was seen by most Americans as a failure. But they did. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was just dumb politics. It happens all the time. It was dumb politics that made Mondale admit to raising taxes in his acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention ... it was dumb politics that made Dukakis get into a tank and drive around like a fool ... it was dumb politics that made McCain pick Palin and then suspend his campaign during a crisis.

Politicians are human and run by humans and sometimes humans aren't smart and they do stupid things.

To quote Kathy Bates in the movie Primary Colors:

"...this one, he takes me out. We go to an outdoor Cuban joint. My head's in my hands. I mean, life has end. I say, 'They did it! The CIA.' I can't believe that Tom Eagleton would really be a nutcase. They had to have taken him and made him crazy. It couldn't be that McGovern was a complete amateur!"

It's so true. Not everything is a conspiracy. McGovern was an amateur ... an awful presidential candidate who left his running mate out to dry and lost in one of the biggest landslides in American history. It happens all the time. We're so conditioned on believing politicians and campaigns can't fuck it up royally ... but they can. Romney is a complete amateur and it's why he's losing and why he keeps stumbling over his own two feet. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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