2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat's interesting is that what's saving Clinton isn't women, it's black people
I never would have predicted this in a million years.
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)think she has used Obama as a shield. Even though I bet Obama would love to throw her under the Bus for Libya after she forced him with a contested convention to get SoS appointment.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)In case of alert - "Magical Negro" is not a slur, but is a term used to describe the common movie cliché in which a black character with hidden supernatural powers but little to no independent character arc of their own, helps white people get out of trouble or find their inner strength or goodness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=magical+negro
jham123
(278 posts)but watch out, someone is going to cry foul over the term, (not me, I know the context)
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Makes me smile. Thanks.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)He was not forced to pick her for SoS in any way.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)She lost fair and square.
Obama is just a good man and offered it to her after she busted her ass for him in the election.
yardwork
(61,585 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)He has said it was one of the best decisions he made in his presidency.
JI7
(89,244 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)All that talk about her southern firewall was because of blacks, not women. Women tend to be dispersed uniformly about the country.
Interesting that now Clinton is distancing herself from Obama now that the southern primaries are over.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Please do not insult me.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Its not news.
The thing is u and others were not predicting this.
Dont act like you were.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)Minorities.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)questionseverything
(9,646 posts)hand counted precincts went for bernie in mass by 17%
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Honestly I would believe you... you definitely love yourself some Clinton.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)She was my third choice. I was bernie, omalley, clinton. Then omalley, clinton. Then I saw he was not getting ahead so I went Clinton. If you search my posts before july you will see I did not prefer her at all in anyway. I felt sad when omalley dropped out because he was the one I wanted to win.
JI7
(89,244 posts)You tried to explain why Clinton is supported by many black people and what Sanders should do. And got attacked for it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I think the outrage over me saying anything was what opened my eyes up.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)1. Concern about Supreme Court & affirmative action, they'd rather have any Dem in the next four years instead of taking a risk.
2. They liked Bill, had to push Hillary aside because Obama was Obama, now its her turn.
3. Sanders Jewish, lives in state where black issues don't exist.
JI7
(89,244 posts)marlakay
(11,443 posts)And she knows it, any other candidate would have run ads from 2008 showing all the racist things they did against Obama. She knows B will never do that.
yardwork
(61,585 posts)Clinton doesn't need saving.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)yardwork
(61,585 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)And yes, the candidate with the most votes wins.
BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)But yes, AAs are the champions!
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)You'd think people who remember America pre-Reagan would want a man like Bernie. Still, she's going to have a lot of promises to keep to her Black supporters. I wonder if she can do it. Being a hawk, I imagine a lot of them will be sent somewhere to fight for his/her country. But you get what you vote for.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)If the voters in Illinois are reminded enough of HRC's ties to Rahm, her support amon AA voters there may erode further.